Skillbased Matchmaking

Being in top tier clan doesn’t really mean anything.

Sadly people still don’t get that having a top tier vechicle won’t solve all their issues.

That is why a performance based matchmaking would be a great thing as it would put all the one death leavers in a game against each other.

Why it would make it worse for You?

And it can’t really be solved.

The only good thing is that most people don’t know how to use it

Discussion require both sides to provide something backing up their claims. Again, if one wants to read conspiracy theories he should be doing that in other places.

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Again, it’s a discussion, not a trial… You avoiding the discussion and demanding proof, whilst talking of tantrums and spamming shows you’re just bad faith…

That’s how it goes all the time.

Doesn’t change the fact that one should provide evidence to back up his claims. Otherwise again we should belive in every conspiracy theory.

You still haven’t pointed out where I called you names, you’re the ONLY one mentioning tantrums and spamming because that’s how you quell opposition in the first place and you constantly deride me to make a problem…

So proof of where I called you names or you’re just projecting with this ‘delusion’ nonsense…

I would like to know how as if a less experienced player gets better and put with better players he still would learn it.

That’s such a basic concept that it’s actually painful…

They learn from others as they see and do what they see… They also don’t think all is done because they don’t see themselves not succeeding and still asking why…

But it would be even easier for them as first they would learn basics from people in the game with them and later if they get better they would gradually learn to perform even better.

At the moment people are being put against people far more experienced and no matter what they do they ask themselfs why they are not succeeding.

Same goes with ranks in CS:GO for competetive games.

Skill based MM,aka MM where all the ESP users gonna fight each other with occasional legit good player.

So wouldn’t it be actually better for overall game health if all ESP users are put in place against each other while others don’t have to face them?

Yes and no,some have ESP yet are not good. Can meet plenty even around 1.3 K/D. And WT years ago had skill based MM iirc. Then it got removed.

I don’t remember having skill based MM in this game when it comes to normal modes.

I only remember one in E-100 events (not tournaments), which was preatty interesting.

CS:GO is a terrible equivalent, and SBMM isn’t the perfect solution as you want to make out it is…

People can learn from others, and they do, and they will be ‘bad’ in terms of the ‘skill’ but that doesn’t mean they should be in the dunce lobbies just because they had and are having bad matches.

The amount of people I see that ignore everyone, and anyone who asks about why they’re having trouble where it’s always the servers or the game rather than giving them a good answer and helping them is actually disheartening to a lot of players.

But hey, where’s my proof for this?

Why it shouldn’t?

It would be better for them if they face players with same skill as they are. If one is performing better than he will be placed in ‘better’ games, if not then he will be in same place. No frustration coming from facing a player who is far more experienced than him as it wouldn’t be a learning situation.

In the same place where all the proof I have asked You for ;).

It is a great example as it shows that people gradually learn and get better in game.

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Why what?

Not really, that ‘skill’ measurement you coin isn’t going to cover every aspect of being good or helpful…

Thing is you’re taking this proof, so you can sit back on that hypocrisy…

It’s not…

So we are back again at the point where performance in battle should be used to determine matchmaking.

Of course it is. People learning at lower ranks to be better and if they perform better they are put against better people.

I’m just using Your own logic against You, it isn’t a trial right?

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Not at all… Nothing I said there implies any leaning to your SBMM being a good thing at all…

But they’ll just be in the dunce lobbies with the bad players… Those who you wish to avoid and ignore.

You’re accepting what I say without proof, but you pick and choose when to throw that out.

Especially when it suits you.

Where’s your proof that CS:GO is a great example? So many results on google say it’s bad, and I know the premise of SBMM is bad overall because of the elitists being off in thier own world unaffected by those who are genuinely struggling to get somewhere…

Good idea but personaly i would sugest to implement BR and SBMM simultaneously BR from reserve to 6/7 br and after SBMM.

As You said:

So when it comes to performance in battle it will take that into consideration. All Your actions will be taken as all of them give You ‘points’ in a game.

And after they are better, they are going to be put with better players. Same works with any PvP game that has some kind of skill based matchmaking.

I’m not accepting things without any proof, I’m just showing You how Your logic works and why it is bad when it comes to discussion.

Counter-Strike 2 - Steam Charts or any major events and how much money is being put in it, not to mention other games with SBMM like:

And still people in games that doesn’t have SBMM are having the same issues that could be resolved with SBMM as most of the problems come from unbalanced lobbies like:

  • spawncamping,
  • sealclubbing,
  • lack of teamwork,
  • etc.
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Again, that, doesn’t cover ‘everything’.

Money being put in doesn’t make the argument that the SBMM works or even is beneficial.

How deluded are you…

(Edit - Nope)

It covers all that matters in game.

If much money is being put it means that something is popular. If SBMM didn’'t work or was hated by many, then such games wouldn’t be as popular.

Good that You ignore the number of active players at the moment as it doesn’t fit what You have said.

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