Are you aware that Roland have a search radar and that search radar will be tracked by sensors on board Su-22/17 and F-4? I mean you feel like being a super player of SAM in War Thunder give you green light to be hanging out killing everything without you be killed or without the rest of the game players have even option to try kill your Roland?
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HARM doesnt work if the target switches their radar off. A lot of SAMs can operate quite happily with their radars off like the Gepard firing Stingers or the Strela or Stormer HVM which dont even have radars and even the FlaRakPz can track using IRST.
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I dont struggle killing any SPAA in game except the Pantsir at top tier and thats mostly due to the nerfed state of aircraft like the Typhoon or Tornado Gr4.
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So as your understanding a better tactical map and HARM missiles put your Killing rate on danger and if someone ask for this things they are complaining? All new aircraft they are adding have the option to sweep the floor with your SAM. If Gaijin add the missiles and sensors then you are out of context in this conversation. You always have the option to go RB an see all as god
Buddy you are telling me things I know. I’m happy you are a smart guy and you want to show here all your knowledge. I’m more than happy to see Gaijin adding all the tools need it to make you work hard on your tactics.
I don’t mind if you help SAMs community to learn how do your tactics.
What you get now is not what should you have for your game play after the SEAD hardware is introduced in WT.
Mean time have fun
If you want GROUND vehicles defeated, your team has GROUND VEHICLES capable of doing that.
In rock paper scissors, rock does not beat both paper and scissors.
Helicopters and fixed wing dominate tanks without relief. They’re the rock to scissors.
Helicopters and fixed wing should be dominated by SPAA/SAM. They’re rock trying to beat paper. Paper should win except for mistakes.
Tanks beat SAM/SPAA. Some SPAA can threaten tanks due to APDS rounds and APHE and whatnot, but some SPAA can do nothing against tanks. Tanks are the scissors that rip the paper apart.
Who do you think wins? The 9.7 Roland 1 or the 8.7 T-62?
I strongly recommend you fly air simulator battles if you do not want to be threatened by players whose literal job is to protect their teammates from your one-sided dominance. However, you might still run into issues then - interceptors whose job is take down bombers are a thing after all and your best bet is teamwork, communication and innovative, stealthy approaches.
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Man that guy is weird, reading his replies makes me wish WT had a year long period with a bug that makes every single plane explode 3 seconds after spawning in
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There should be bigger maps, normal rewarding, some minimissens like bases with anti air defence and much more, landing hook should have its own key and landing on the carrier sould be inproved sometimes you can bug inside the carrier or just side off.
Whats a HARM gonna do vs a Strela?
What’s a HARM gonna do vs a SPAA using IRST?
Stop your coping and accept the game for what it is, you ain’t forced to play it and it wont be changed no matter how much you are crying about it
The request is easy to understand. MiG-21, F-4, F-100 earlier versions are 60 aircraft and Gaijin is building Simulation Battles missions with SPAA units 20 years newer. WHY?. Should I have a hard time using a 60s vehicles decreasing my Silver Lions in favor of SPAA players gaining rewards with easy job against older aircraft doesn’t represent the reality for 60s vehicles in a context of Simulation.
Can I use my 60s air vehicles purchased as premium with my money in this game without give rewards to stupid kids want to have easy kill with his 80s SPAA?
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He should be talking about ground, with brackets putting e.g. AlphaJet vs PGZ09 together
To add and clarify why chaff is ineffective against the Roland 1 AI SAM defenses.
It’s because it uses the Doppler radar technology which can easily distinguish between slow-moving chaff and a fast-moving aircraft. Allowing it to filter out the chaff as a false target.
You can dump as much chaff as possible if it makes you feel better. But in reality, it’s completely pointless.
Does the same apply to Gepards?
and PD shouldnt work if you notch the PD radar, but even then. I dont think it breaks the lock.
as far as I am aware. AI SPAA within ASB simply ignore CMs
It won’t since the Gepard also uses the Doppler radar system.
All you can do is zig zag, and avoid flying straight that can make it easier to zero in on you.
The SPAA AI in EC are set to fire in bursts, and not full automatic fire.
The SPAA set on these Simulators Battles Air Ground vehicles are way newer and we are in Simulator mode. So, the 60s aircrafts should have the right to face 60s Air defenses. That make sense? It’s not about to balance Air and ground vehicles. If at 60s were the Nikes and Sa-2 or M42 Duster and ZSU-57 AAA that is what should be down ground for 60s fighter.
Rolands, Strella are highly mobile and required targeting sensors with IR sights. Such technology was not in 60s fighters as Mig-21 and F-100. How come we should buy a premium aircraft to grinding facing happy kids usings 80s hardware to stop grinding peoples have spent money in premium 60s aircrafts? and they are getting highly rewards rate for grinding and the person that bought his premium 60s aircraft should go hell? not right by Gaijin!!
If you want to fly a plane, play AIR simulator battles not GROUND simulator battles.
Paying money does not entitle you to dominate other players unopposed.
You keep wanting to fly a plane in a game mode that is the only options for tankers. You have a game mode all to yourself without tanks or SPAA. Why won’t you play it?
Air sim has issues, but it’s quite fun when those issues are worked around.
Ground sim brackets are also stupid. They need fixing. Why am I able to go and grab my plane and fly whenever, even if it’s a stupid decision, but if I wanna drive a firefly in sim I can’t unless the stars align.
Thus, we need better bracketing system.
That’s a legitimate complaint.
Going “I paid money therefore enemy shouldn’t be able to counter me” isn’t.
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Yup… I do agree, though if you want some dynamic CAS gameplay. GSB is actually pretty decent for it. Its extremely boring attacking the battlefields in ASB.
«Oh no! I paid for a premium, plz let me be a killing machine»
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