i think they should keep the current brs, while also adding 2 additional bracket rotations which are 11.3-12.3 and 12.3-13.3.
or if they can’t do that, then just change directly the br of certain planes, like the su27 to 13.0, JH7A to 12.0, A10C to 12.0…
Morvran you seem to forget that im requesting that 12.3 permanently face 13.0. I hope there isnt any confusion as i have been making this request over the last 4 months.
I will try to ground pound the tornado gr4 i might get some decent ship kills. The tornado f3 might work as good hit and run platform on a map with decent terrain.
Okay. So… Harrier Gr7 and Tornado Gr4 are 100% of the time uptiered to face 13.0 ARH slingers?
Great…
Also that means 11.0, 11.3 and 11.7s are 100% of the time Uptiered to fight 12.0s. Which would be funny, because the Tornado F3 steam rolls the Mig-23MLD. it would probably result in most 12.0s moving to 12.3. So that means they are now permamently uptiered.
Im requesting there to be a fine cutoff between gen 4 aircraft and 12.0 aircraft. This is due to things like avionics and armament. Things that you seem to be bothered by in your tornado f3
The harrier ii is definitely an attacker built to face gen 4.
Like a said before if youre getting intercepted by fighters maybe form a strike group with escorts using things like looking for a group(xbox) or the discord. Alot of attackers arent intended to penetrate contested airspace.
So, you can only play these aircraft if you are being carried by teammates that you may or may not be able to find and hope they are good enough to actually escort you?
Nah. Id rather just get a 11.3 to 12.3 bracket rather than breaking the entire current BR system that has been working just fine
Thats kind of how strike groups work irl with exception of covert missions that single strategic targets. I dont get the balance attackers argument when there are fighters in the same br. Either make the game a social game and use some team work. I mean the game kind of spells it out. Hold and maintain air superiority then attack the ground units.
Yes
Isnt that why social concepts like game squadrons exist. The game creators at least try to encourage this type of vertically aligned game play.
I really dont get why people paint the flanker as this usper aircraft when it has never been. Even when top tier was f16, f15, gripen and flanker the flanker wasnt the best plane.
Right now it would probably perform very similarly to an f18 (premium). I really dont understand why people are scared by the flanker when you have at a lower br stuff like the viggen with amraams and the kfir with derby.
I have very high stats with harrier and j8f, and the only “skill” I had to put into them is to go straight, spam missile, run away before getting into any dogfight, and sooner or later people die to those fox3. The flanker would be much worse than either the harrier, vigge, kfir that already are at 13.0. Even german phantom would be leagues better than the flanker.
If blue side gets the harrier ii with aim 120 and kifr c10 the redside should get r27 er and r73
you re also forgettin f14 spam of phoenix or, worse, fakours
Fox1 russian jets rly need to 13.0
Yep
A lot has changed.
All of this while R-27ER has remained the best Fox 1 in the game, that has better kinematics than AIM-120.
If Su-27 and especially Su-33 were moved down to 13.0 now, they would wipe the floor with their 6 and 8 R-27ERs respectively. Sparrows are just much worse, AIM-54s too and Fakour is only present on an event vehicle.
Premium F-18 gets Sparrows with data link, but it’s slow, not suitable for BVR at all and it’s a premium. AIM-7P is also still a Sparrow with same kinematics. F-18 is a good plane that should be at least at 13.0 (both tech tree and premium variant), but it won’t be able to contest Su-27s in BVR.
I still think something should be done, either a 13.3 bracket or Su-27 being moved down to 13.0 (not Su-33), but let’s not pretend Su-27 isn’t a very good plane. The only thing it lacks is good avionics.
Don’t forget that red side has AIM-120s too on F-4F ICE.
It could go 13.0 with 27ER&ET removal
I learned that while MiG-29s never carried R-27Es, Su-27s were intended to fly with them from the beginning, just like MiG-29 was intended to fly with R-73s, so I’m not for this solution that was flawed anyway. Just buff the blue side with a little something like AIM-7MH instead.
Overall I would:
not all 27 flown with them, thats missile closer to 90’s
also, 7MH would be enough, it still will lack in perfomance a lot against 27ER. while being comparable with 27R tbh
Harrier and Kfir more like close range fox-3 carriers.
Harrier cant give normal launch stats, Kfir have derby…
with addition of 9M or AMRAAM? or how?
theyre both inferior to planes, that you want to put 13.0… in both - missile amount and quality. aswell as they have only good… nothing? it’s mid plane, just mid.
they should stay at their current br.
Maybe swiss(german premium) one that gets added in that update could go 13.0, due to -402 engines and 120CM.