No. It doesn´t at all… It just screws Zombers. For every other Bomber player, there are more than enough targets available. Bases, Convoys and ground battles, ships are there all the time.
This would massively improve the bomber gameplay.
In addition, a single bomber would never have been able to reach an airfield alone anyway. So it’s obsolete in Sim anyway.
Ah yes… Fighter rewards are good enough, in your opinion…
But they are by no means that, as so many have been able to clearly explain to you before me.
When I then read through the discussion about the Ju288C, it is already completely clear that bomber rewards need a cut.
Here is a little cutout: “… and that doesn’t requires much brain to do this (not that I am bad, but sometimes it’s good to be able to play and rest in the same time, with easy gameplays)…”
My solution is much simpler. It also finally adds real bomber gameplay and makes it extremely difficult for Zomber to exploit the sim mechanics.
Furthermore, Fighter Pilots enables significantly improved gameplay.
Alternatively, AI fighters at different heights above the airfield would of course also be conceivable. 6 or 8, with a perfect aim. So that a single bomber doesn’t have the slightest chance of getting within bombing range of the airfield unless it is protected by a group of fighter planes.
LOL… There are enough other targets!!! I just told you how many… So if you are not able to find any targets in a Sim game, Sim is just the wrong place for you.
Clearly you have never played higher tiers. Ive had 100s (maybe 1000s) of sorties in aircraft like jaguars, buccaneers and tornados where there were NO other targets.
Good luck attacking a convoy or battlefield with bombs because of the SPAAs and bases were all destroyed. Especially in the case of the Buc S2s which can take out 3.8 bases per sortie. Never enough bases on the map for that many bombs.
Especially when you have something like an A-10C or 2 mopping up all those ai targets.
Deleting airfields as visible targets only hurts the gamemode. If youve never played a bomber then you won’t understand
and just double checked. You’ve yet to play a single match over rank V. Please comment on “the availability of bases or ground targets” when you reach rank VIII. Remember, Gaijin would nerf EVERY BR and not just bottom tier stuff
Sorry, but I´m just not interested in mouse kicking missile spam gameplay that happens in “Top tier”.
And yes… reducing rewards for AF bombing to zero effects some “not Zombers”. But Zombers will be reduced to close to zero… Less Zombers, more targets for real Bomber pilots…
Bombers are the root cause of this nerf.
And strangely enough, the fighter pilots have to suffer the most from this nerf…
Hmm, looks to me, you never tried something else to bomb than Bases and AF´s to get exorbitantly high rewards for the least amount of effort…
In nerfing AF bombing, everyone’s gameplay benefits. Expect the Zombers…
It will hurt the gamemode serverly for anyone who plays sim for the PvE side of the PvPvE gamemode. ARB is already DOA for anything that needs to drop bombs. Deleting a primary target from the gamemode just pushes them out of their last gamemode.
No they werent. it was people making farming lobbies and killing people on runways.
And where did you see that? Do i enjoy a good mud mover? yes. But I spend just as much time in fighter aircraft as well and trust me, evading Mig-29s in the Tornado IDS, takes far more skill than just firing an AMRAAM or Skyflash at them,
Everyone looses. Less targets in Sim and a destroyed gameplay for those wanting to play a bomber or strike aircraft, then less people will play sim. Less people playing sim, means less targets for fighters, maybe even no lobbies available.
I hope you enjoy sitting on the lobby page waiting for a match to appear that you can join and when you do, you spend the entire match just shooting down ai aircraft because there are no players.
No, it doesn´t… There are way better targets for good gameplay than AF´s… There is close to 0 Ticket bleed for bombing AF. Sim is team play. And there are way better targets to choose for the win of your team, than bombing an AF for your own points…
Yes they were…
I’m sorry, but your comments make it hard to believe…
LOL… The only reason the lobbies are empty right now is because the bombers are destroying the airfields unhindered. This shuts down the entire game play for the fighter and strike aircraft pilots…
The fewer Zombers due to zero reward from AF bombing, the more players in the lobby
Sorry, but for me Zomber are not players that I would need in a sim lobby.
If all bases are dead (happens ALL the time at higher tiers) and you lack the guided weapons needed to attack AI targets (which is very common) then what am I suppose to do?
Fly around and around over enemy territory waiting for a base to respawn and hoping I dont get shot down by an enemy fighter instead of just dropping bombs on the airfield.
and its clear to me you have no idea what anything past props even looks like in Sim. I dont understand how you can comment on how I should be playing something like a Buccaneer when you’ve barely unlocked your first jet.
Again, please dont comment or demand changes for ALL BRs. Because all you are doing, is demanding changes that will not benefit those in fighters. You are just demanding changes that will hurt bombers. Unfairly and serverly. If you want pure PvP gameplay. go play ARB.
Sim rewards should be increased, not decreased further.
No bases for bombers to attack, no bombers in the gamemode and thus no players. Also, just shoot the bombers down, free score for you. If you cant shoot down a slow lumbering bomber, thats a skill issue. I just farm kills on the zombers when i want an easy game.
The same thing as a fighter pilot focused on shooting down the AI recon aircraft only…
Waiting… and thinking about your style of playing this game…
… OMG… OMG… Really? Maybe you could think: “Oh… it makes sense, but there are a lot of bombers here today… I’ll just jump into my fighters and score my points…”
Because according to your statement, the rewards for fighters are extremely good…
It only hurts Zombers. And everyone else benefits from it…
And no, Sim is not pure PvP… And that’s good! I also like the PvE aspect of it.
But brainless bombing AF´s is a thing, Sim doesn´t need for sure…
I bet you were one of the first who exploited the “No Airfield anti-air” Bug… excessively.
Well, I hope thats the gameplay you enjoy, because that might be all you will ahve to shoot down if the changes you want are put through, if you even get the 4 players needed for a match to start
So I cannot play the aircraft that I want to play because there are already too many bombers? I dont care about about SLs, because I get those from naval. I dont care about RP because I have everything researched already. I want to play aircraft for fun, and sat AFK waiting for a base to respawn is not fun. I want to be able to jump into whatever I want, whenever I want to. If Im in the mood for a Buc or Jag, you know what I will be doing. I will be dropping bombs. If Im in the mood for the SHar or F3. Then guess what, i’ll be shooting down aircraft.
I shoudlnt be limited on choice because 1 or 2 other players are in bombers too (which is all that is needed at higher tiers)
Please learn to read
and anyone that is in something designed to drops bombs is a zomber and not a player to you then. Might as well delete every bomber and strike aircraft from the game in that case. Because htey are now DOA.
HAHAHAHA. this is just getting funny now. Nah, im sure you were just sat spawn camping people at the airfield.
Besides, I would still be able to attack and airfield with ease even if it was defended by Pantsirs. Its called CCRP
Except for people like me who enjoy playing ground attack, and airfields provide some form of threat given the usual proximity of enemy air and SAMs. Not to mention the fighters that would have to roam significantly further for foes to engage, whilst also having more points to search out enemy fighters because bombers would be disincentivised from engaging in the teamplay mechanic of reducing enemy spawn points; keeping their distance. So really hinders fighter activities too.
Feel like even if you haven’t played a bomber, the advantage that it should bring to remove these sources of the foe should be obvious enough to a fighter player. Also made life easier for me in my lil frogfoot when there were fewer avenues I had to worry about an approach from when smacking ground targets.
Are you serious now? I gave this example because it would be ridiculous and no fighter pilot would come up with such an idea. He would simply look for a new job to continue helping his team…
And you should think about that too…
There are only a certain number of targets.
Have you ever heard a fighter pilot say: We need at least 20 AI recon aircraft so everyone can shoot one at any time? NO!!!
You can… It´s your choice… But you have to find out for yourself whether this decision is intelligent or not.
Yeah, he sees someone in something like a Lancaster, just dropping their full bomb load on the large, easily spotted airfield rather than trying to find 3 bases (which might be dead) and thinks its unfair.
But yeah, the number of matches i’ve been forced to divert to an AF because there was no bases in something like a Tornado is insane.
Even if they aren’t dead, a lancaster lacks the advantage of a targeting system outside of realising you’ve flown directly over it or knowing the map. It’s a lot easier to clear bases higher up.
Even had to do it with my frogfoot, and you loiter a lot longer with a frogfoot. If it isn’t coming back in the time a frogfoot leaves the region, it ain’t coming back for faster kit. I’ll likely have to do it with my su 34, once I’ve got my 34 spaded and sim stuff set back up.
It’s annoying to read posts from people saying air sim should be killed because they can’t grind it. Stick to your arb, sim is for people who enjoy the mode.
Nope. Just asking for a massive Zomber nerf. So painful, so they have to leave with negative reward balance, like way too many hardworking fighter pilots now do…
If “you” play Sim for grinding RP to play your planes in ARB, none needs “you” in sim anyway…
Why? Coz “you” are not interested in proper gameplay…
By the way, aren’t you that guy that proved with Videos, that there is NO runway Bug?..
But Gaijin saw, there is a bug, and removed it…