Siam-Thailand Lineups For Japanese Tech Tree

APC “Black Widow Spider”

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a very chunky B L O C K with wheels

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That is first prototype of DTI Black Widow Spider. all Weapons on this vehicle at the moment is Mock-Up

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First Prototype in 2015


Lastest Black Window Spider

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tbh japan should get a new line with new vehicles, but just one nation is not enough, maybe add also south korea and the philipines to the mix so the line would be more varied :) also idc if y’all get chinese stuff as long as we also get them lmao

south korea would be wasted in japan it has a lot of vehicles possibilities and even a subtree possibility for north korea or even another country or export vehicles

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Thai Cessna OA-37B Dragonfly, looks like funny little CAS for ~6.3

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Speaking of lil badass COIN aircraft how about…

The Royal Malaysian Airforce’s
CL-41G-5 ‘Tebuan’ (Wasp)



Canadian CL-41G with its maximum weapons loadout
(note only 4 hardppoints compared to Tebuan’s 6)

History & Stuff

Now there is already a proposal for this aircraft intended to be either placed in British or American Tech Tree so I would highly suggest you guys to check it out.

Anyways, it seems there is a difference between the Canadian CL-41G and RMAF’s CL-41G-5 which boils down to having slightly more powerful engines but at the same time had an additional hardpoints (the original CL-41 Tutor operated by Canada only had 2 (but there were attack version prototypes, just never adopted afaik)) and revised landing gear for softer ground, which evened things out. They were ordered by Malaysia in 1966 where they served until being replaced by the Aermacchi MB-339A in 1985.

Why here?

Now I think I speak for everybody that we are all hoping that Thailand could become the door to allow other SEA vehicles into the game and this time, I propose that this be a sidegrade premium if the Cessna OA-47B Dragonfly ever comes into the Thai subtree. Now, even if the British or USA gets this vehicle first wouldnt mean that this wouldnt be able to be added as this particular version with uprated engine and more hardpoints is a unique variant for the Royal Malaysian Airforce.

Now I would even argue that Malaysia should have the honor of having this aircraft and not Canada as the Canadian variant was never operated with the light attack version in mind - it was always operated as a trainer compared to this which operated as a frontline light attack jet from the get go. All others were prototypes and experimental aircraft.

Specs & Photos

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RMAF CL-41G with its 12.7mm gun pods below



RMAF CF-41G in Butterworth, Penang, Malaysia



RMAF CF-41G with Northrop F-5E Tiger II and CAC Sabres



RMAF CF-41G and its liveries


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Unidentified pilots of the RMAF CF-41G

Sources

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Canadair CT-114 Tutor - Wikipedia
Warbird Alley: Canadair CL-41 Tutor/Tebuan
CANADAIR CL-41G TEBUAN : PESAWAT PEJUANG PERTAMA TUDM – BlogSerius
https://www.geocities.ws/faisal4589/tebuan.html
12.7mm mini-gun? | Key Aero
Canadair CL-41 Projects | Secret Projects Forum
Canadair Tutor CT-114

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Royal Thai Navy
HTMS Makut Rajakumarn
Soft launch of the Anti-Air Naval Missiles



HTMS Makut Rajakumarn Training Frigate in the
ASEAN International Fleet Review, Pattaya Bay, Chonburi, Thailand

History

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The HTMS Makut Rajakumarn is a frigate operated by the Royal Thai Navy. The ship was built by Yarrow Shipbuilders in Glasgow, Scotland 1971. The ship entered service in 1973 and is currently (2010) in service as a training ship. It once served as the Royal Thai Navy’s flagship

The design was based on the Malaysian frigate KD Rahmat, but is larger and has a second gun at the stern. The ship was refitted in 1985-88 following an engine room fire in 1984, with the Sea Cat missiles and Limbo anti submarine mortar removed and replaced by anti-submarine torpedo tubes and new radar and sonar.

Purpose and Why?

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Now I debated on whether to submit an actual proposal or not but I decided against it as this is really just a throw in the dark type of thing. If you think that it might be best to actually submit a proper proposal do let me know but, this is the gist of it.

Since anti-air missiles for naval are not yet in the game, it would be very hard to suggest newer and more modern vessels. This however has the unique distinction of being a modern frigate but its anti-air missiles have been taken out in exchange of torpedoes and electronic equipment. This works great for us War Thunder players as we now have a variant of the ship that is compliant with current gameplay - and the added bonus of it being readily-available for anti-air missiles once they become available.

Do let me know what you guys think but this ship is still potent enough even if it had lost its anti-air missiles. I dont even know what rank to put this in and it might just be too modern looking for current War Thunder.

Specs & Stuff

Since we are going to be using the No Anti-Air missiles refit, I am going to be listing first the post-1988 refit which was made after it caught fire. Anti-air could still be added but maybe as a modification if ever anti-air missiles become more commonplace in naval.

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General specifications:

  • length: 97.56 m
  • beam:10.97 m
  • draft: 5.57 m
  • displacement (max): 2,072 t
  • max speed: 25 kts
  • range: 5,940 nm @ 18 kts
  • Crew:: 153
  • propulsion: 2 shaft CODAG
  • 1x Rolls-Royce Olympus TM 3B gas turbine 23,175 hp
  • 1x Man Diesel 12PC2V 6000 hp

Sensors:

  • 1x Thales DA05 surveillance and targeting radar
  • 1x DECCA 1229 surface search/navigation radar
  • 1x Koden and 1x Furuno navigation radars
    (added after)
  • 1x Thales WM22 mod 61 fire control radar
  • 2x Target Designation Sight (TDS)
    (replaced HSA M44 radar/visual director)
  • 1x Atlas DSQS-21C Active Search/Attack Sonar sonar (Max Range 16nm)
    (replaced Plessey PMS-26 hull sonar)

Communication systems:

  • UHF antennas
  • 1x BAE AN/TPX-54 Mk X

Armament:

  • 2x BAE 114mm/55 Mk8 Mod 0 naval guns
  • 1x OTOBreda 40 mm/70 Bofors Twin Compact naval gun
    (replaced Sea Cat Launcher short-range surface to air missile)
  • 2 to 4x M2HB machine guns
  • 2x PMW49A (STWS-2) Torpedo Launcher
    (replaced Bofors 40/60 guns)
  • 1x Limbo Mk 10 Anti Submarine Mortar
    (now removed)
  • 2x Depth Charge Rack Mk9

More Photos

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HTMS Makut Rajakumarn, 1978
with its 4x Sea Cat Missiles (first ship to be equipped with AA missiles in SEA)


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HTMS Makut Rajakumarn with pre-1988 refit with its 4x Sea Cat Missiles


Makut Rajakumarn 1975
HTMS Makut Rajakumarn, 1975 Drawing


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HTMS Makut Rajakumarn, 2010 side profile
with no more missiles but replaced with a OTOBreda 40mm twin gun



HTMS Makut Rajakumarn with clearer back view post 1988 refit


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HTMS Makut Rajakumarn post-1988 refit Drawing



HTMS Makut Rajakumarn as seen on Google Earth, Sattahip Naval Dockyard, 2013



The Royal Malaysian Navy ship KD Rahmat, F-24 (1971-2004), now a museum ship, was also built at Yarrows, Glasgow, to which HTMS Makut Rajakumarn is based from.

Major differences would include the heavier gun armament, with Makut Rajakumarn having a second 4.5″ gun at the stern. Credit: Mjabb / CC BY-SA

Sources:

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HTMS Makut Rajakumarn - Wikipedia
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5340
Royal Thai Navy – Frigates – The Searchers
เทคโนโลยีและประวัติศาสตร์ด้านการทหารกองทัพไทยและกองทัพทั่วโลก : Royal Thai Navy What If. (Update 28-Feb-2017)
Shipbucket
Flickr: Royal Thai Navy HTMS Makut Rajakumarn (FF 433) Training Fr… | Flickr

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Came across this today. Didnt know Thailand operated the HQ-12 SAM. I assume this operated as part of a battery which is too bad it didnt carry its own radar.

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Also look at this, we better get the black camo for the Thai Cobra

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Also Im surprised were not talking more about the FA-50TH. I saw that it was now going to be fitted with GPS Guided Munitions from SK.

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Also hopefully they decide to adopt this homegrown drone instead of the Norinco ones theyre using now.

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Honestly, this is just an excuse to share out this top notch website. Great freaking blog for Thai Military News.

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Does anyone know if Thailand ever acquired AGM-65’s at any point?


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Thailand also used AGM 65 by using it with the F-16.

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Glad to see, I had never seen these pics before and for some reason no sources on the Internet ever stated or made it clear to me if they did

Also, does Thailand have a targeting pod with thermals in their inventory? The Atlis II pod is decent but no thermals would really hold it back

Thailand’s F-16 with Sniper targeting pod

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Thailand will be getting AT-6s

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Very interesting to see, then it looks like Thailand will be perfect for giving Japan CAS

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Does anyone know anything about what equipment the Thai AV-8S had? Like it’s missiles and countermeasures?

Also do we know if Thailand ever used the AGM-65B’s? Would be weird to use the A-7E and F-5E without them as an option

Three F-16 MLU with Sniper targeting pods, photos by Royal Thai Airforce yesterday

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Any Thai SPAA/SAM for 5.0 to 10.0 Br range?

For the most part, pictures of Thai fighter jets appear in local media and those who are interested. In today’s era where social media has started. We will see more of these people in the media. Both through the Air Force itself Both interested groups and the media

If A-7E and F-5E I don’t have a image with AGM-65

I have pictures of the AV-8 armed as follows.

AV-8S Weapons

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As for Thai SPAAG, I honestly admit that it is underused. Because in Thailand the Static AA Gun is mostly used, but if we want to bring the AA that we have, it consists of the following.

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Prototype vehicle for the M61A1 Vulcan machine gun.

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M163 VADS.


Type 51 Starstreak


Thairung Dzhigit

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