How is Su-27SM undertiered? F-15E is better than it… and F-15C is equal to it.
You are not seriously suggesting Su-27SM is the same as F-15E and MICA M2Ks… are you?
It isn’t
8 AMRAAMs and meh FM screw it over
Man I free aced both F-15E and Su-27SM
I think I know what I’m talking about
I am, It is the single best 13.7, better than every 14.0 with only the MICA mirages being comparable
The only reason people struggle with it, is because it has a skill floor due to meh avionics (Same reason as premium flankers btw)
Any good player won’t have issues with this
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Subsonic plane tho
Ye and gaijin thinks its fair for it to be just 0.3 br lower than su30mk. As if su30mk is only “barely” better.
Since i posted this i not only had no full downtiers and only 1 partial downtier (12.0-13.0), but also in the last 10 matches till now i only got killed by either lag spikes or su-30s. Fix your game gaijin, please
Edit: 12.7 F14A gameplay
I’m sick of fighting these absolute monstrosities in my 12.3 jets, Gaijin you HAVE to move them up for the health of the game, You know everyone just sees this as pure p2w right? Like you are not beating the allegations
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I think this is one of those rare cases where they should just say “Screw the stats” and move it up, Its obviously a pain in the ass for everyone
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Screw the stats but not all that money coming from selling clearly p2w jet
I love the fact that i can pay money and win more matches in this game, It’s my favorite aspect of war thunder :D
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Tells me all I need to know lol.
Imagine saying that while J-11B, F15JM, J10A exists…
Worse
Have you SEEN the PL-12 nerfs?
Worse missile kit, worse fm
again, PL-12s
Also less countermeasures
Worse fm too possibly
F-15E’s flight model is objectively mid
All you got it speed, which won’t save you besides going cold
Last I checked going cold does nothing but let the enemy chase you for free
“Waaah more range”
more range doesn’t matter since the meta isn’t long range
Go ask the best wt players at top tier
I guarantee you most of them will say the Su-27SM is the best 13.7 and many will say it’s undertiered
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I wouldn’t call the F-15E the “defining missile bus” since it’s one the lower end of the 14.0 missile count which to be fair 6 of the 10 are Hornets speaking of which? mind explaining why you didn’t use the hornets with it’s 10 missiles (2 IR 8 AHR)as a comparison? they are inferior than the premium Su-30s and the Su-27SM, slower than the SUs with a questionable radar and energy retention…these 6 vehicles all sit at 14.0 because until recently gaijin was allegoric to dropping C-5s passed 14.0 which hurts the first finish F-18C since that lacks an HMD as well as the fat fuck F/A-18D in the japenese TT
Migoon also sits at KD of 5+/ 2.84 KpS on the MKK over 137 games.
I dont know about you but i find it hard to believe that this is by accident or him being lucky.
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pl12 is still good it’s comparable to the aam4 or aim120a, and the j11b radar is one of the best mechanical in the game
I wouldn’t argue the f15jm is worse than su27sm, especially since it’s lighter than the f15c it’s the best f15 imo, love the aam4 and aam3, of which are better than r73/r77
The j10a is a dogfighting king and yet again pl12s aren’t we bad as you claim they’re not bad imo and 96 vs 72, come on dude
AAM3, sure.
But how are AAM4s better than R77s?
And dont say range.
explosive mass ;)
By that logic, Phoenixes and their derivates are the best A2A missiles in game.
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SkyFlash (DF) > Aim7-F
Cus 15m blast radius :D
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