2 games with 7 spawns is a statline only achievable through NT though
nuclear thunder doesn’t count towards stats
bullet hell and missile spamming and rearming like an F-14
They do for now
oh ffs
Are we fr man…
I also find it very balanced when I decide to use the F-4E Phantom in GRB and I face this thing in the air.
F-4E II 11.3 GRB vs Su-30MK 12.3 GRB
Obviously its exactly as intended and not broken at all.
TWS radar, 1.8M TV missiles with a 35 KM lock range, multiple 3.5M ARM, instant ESM. They are definitely perfectly matched.
The absolute GOAT F-4E with its non PD radar, SARH missiles, no targeting pod 20km lock gen 1 TV missiles, bombs and ARM is very capable of fighting the Su-30.
If you don’t think these 2 jets should be in the same BR range you obviously don’t play the game. How could the Su-30 go up in BR? Would be unplayable
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Plane GRB BRs are just a joke in general.
Slight nitpick, but that 35km lock range is only for locking a point on the terrain, not for locking a target.
Woe’s post was about the 30MK2 no?
Unless I misread, which is a real possibility.
Oh, he means Kh-29?
I thought he did at least, although if he does mean Kh-29s he’s very generous with their performance in that description.
The F-4E 2 at 11.3 is really good though.
The SU-30s are a bit silly at 12.3 with how good they have it with CAP and CAS capability at the same time.
Russian top tier CAS/SAM combo is just oppressive in general. Even playing CAP against it is rough because you’re forced to tree/terrain hug less you be obliterated by an SM-SV. Hell half the air portions of maps are just stupidly small in general, getting turned around when only 10-15km away from the battlefield.
My point was that the F-4E can’t compete at all with the premium Su-30s
It’s not even close. The premiums need to go up by at least .4
I don’t think anyone with a brain can argue that it’s balanced for a F-4E to face an Su-30… even if it’s only GRB
But is it SU27SM worthy on ground as CAS/Cap
I think not.
Or would it be F15E or F18C worthy on ground, nope.
There’s one biggest flaws on soviet and chinese Cas planes and that is lack of IR seeking ammunition against ground targets until toptier CAS. (25SM2 excluded)
Balanced as 10.3 facing that on ground.
6-8km target lock range depending on weather and is there even slightest cloud in the way, but I bet you know that allready, since they get lock on same range as TV mavericks on tanks
12km according to the files.
Yeah, biggest issue is that free pantsir in there, and sm sv should be moved to 13.0
They should replace that pantsir with something else, heck even tunguska on upgraded missiles would be more viable option.
Like every TV seeker.
But games where you can actually get that 12km target lock on any TV seekers… I havent seen none, longest locks have been against enemy helos, what are flying against bright sky.
the only time ive gotten a lock on Kh29Ts that wasnt a forced point lock at 10+km range was when targeting ships and the ammo depots in nuclear escalation. Against tanks the average track-lock is around 5-6km distance with all 29s from experience.
Alternative is to force point lock, fire and once the missile gets close enough to the target itll switch to track lock if it sees the vehicle. Longest Kh29T kill for me was i think against an ADATS from 14km distance.