Should premium Su-30s be moved to 13.7?

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Dude, there’s a tactic named after it, it’s called a “Sparrow roll” for a reason, you pull hard elevator then roll at the same time, when I get home tonight I’ll get some clips for you :)

How about instead of that you learn to read, I stated that it’s impossible to roll an pl12 in a game (not a cherry picked clip on a custom you took 30 tries at) like you can with an aim7.

You won’t be able to do that lol.

Because they’ve ruined the entire bracket by being overpowered for a 13.3 jet and just being way better by magnitudes than everything they routinely face at 12.3-13.3 while still being competitive enough in uptiers… but you knew all this presumably

Oh mb, didn’t feel like reading through an hour of posts lol

No, the Pl12 can indeed be sparrow rolled, that’s what all the outrage was about awhile ago, legit search it up dude, I don’t need to wate my time proving it when there’s already hours of footage you’re just too ignorant to watch

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There are multiple videos on nerfed pl-12s being outrolled, including by mig-15s, which are notoriously bad at rolling.

You can find them here:

lol it’s not possible, there isn’t a clip of one being rolled in battle, just a custom match we have no idea how many attempts he had either.

TLDR, you’re coping and lying

interesting, zero instants of it happening in a real game. almost like it’s impossible.

Seriously can you guys not read? cherry picked customs where we have no idea the amount of tires is anecdotal at best.

People being dumb as rocks does not make things impossible. 99% of players do not sparrow roll a sparrow. Thus 99% will not roll a pl-12. This does not change the fact that it is rollable.

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that’s just a untrue cope, I sparrow roll, and commonly players sparrow roll aim7s it’s not rare.

I’ve NEVER seen or had this happen in an actual game because it doesn’t.

You not seeing it does not mean it doesn’t happen elsewhere. There are whole threads documenting PL-12 nerfs. You are free to look. Again, the average Su-30MK2 idiot will not roll a pl-12.

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then post a clip like I asked from an actual game, what 4 people have replied at least one of you should have something, surely.

If not then stop coping, it doesn’t happen in real game play, just customs and it’s far from reliable there.

You’re the one coping that it doesn’t lose any performance? I’m just gonna fly a 77 slinger instead. Again, why should I take your word over whole threads and documented videos on the nerf?

post a clip or stop @ing me i don’t care.

(FOR THOSE WHO CAN’T/DON’T READ, IN A GAME, CUSTOM DOES NOT COUNT)

“I don’t care” as you yell, alone, about pl-12s

yet you keep replying, so are you a object of my imagination?

literally how am I talking to myself lol

Because its fun seeing someone confidentally wrong? Even a search on youtube would show a video on pl-12 nerfs.

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then you shouldn’t have any issues providing any proof? because you seem to just be seething rn

You say every video is fake/custom, while you show no proof of yourself. Lots of “pl-12 is fine actually” but no proof.

Here’s a food for thought, if its “manipulated customs”, why is it consistently replicatable? Across multiple planes no less.

lil bro can you literally not tell the difference from realistic and custom? and you’re the one presenting the claim, you’re basically asking me for evidence to disprove God while you can’t prove he exists in the first place. it’s a logical fallacy lol.