L26 is, but L23A1 isnt
Ok? so why are you comparing L23A1 to DM23 when L26 is the best shell that just seems stupid
But it is the best at chaly 1 mk2
And i forgot that Mk3 got uptiered AND recieved L26 just because.
The mk2 is a 10.3 tank your now comparing a 10.3 tank to a 10.7 tank
i seriously dont know why the challenger mk2 OR l23a1 are in this conversation it should be the chally mk3 with L26 and the 2A4 with DM23 idk why your talking about the mk2
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im just gonna put my thoughts on the best 10.7 tanks best to worst and get peoples opinions but personally i think it goes
1: 2a4
2: challenger 1 mk3
3: Vickers MK7
4: M1 Abrams
5: Ariete (p)
6: T80B/Bhishma TWMP
(im bias to britain) personally i think the 2a4 has 0 reason to get DM33 as its already the best all rounder at the br and 10.7 before the bmpt was one of the most balanced BR weirdly enough
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What about giving 2A4 the DM33 and NOT increasing its BR ?
Russian MBTs got massive reload speed buff, I did not see their BRs increased ? NATO MBTs got their basket modeled, nerfing-them-to-the-ground, I did not see their BRs go down neither ?
Why is it always NATO vehicles that have to go up in BR once they’re buffed ? Just give the 2A4 its DM33, look at how NATO is getting pulverized at 10.7. Enough.
Even the russian guy says the russian MBT counterpart is the best at this BR.
He knows the bias is blatant.
I think T-80B is better than Ariete P
eh ariete has better mobility firepower and i think better sights and the armour isnt to different from eachother
T80B doesn’t beat the 2a4 but at all lol
the T80B doesn’t beat it but does it?
T80B has pathetic armour for it’s BR as it’s the old array, has wworse mobility, worse depression, worse optics, turret traverse, gun elevation speeds as well as 3 crew so less survivability.
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T80B doesn’t beat the 2a4 but at all lol
Yeah right, almost like the 2A4 can’t be lolpened frontally from UFP like it was nothing, even from a KVT shell (aka garbage shell).
The T-90S is 10.7 btw
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I forgot about the UK one
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you realise most nations at 10.7 have a round with higher pen than the 3BM42, aka L26, DM33, Type 1983-I APDS which can and does cut clean through the UFP of a T80B, the onething it as and it’s made irrelevant by half the trees in the game?
Dm23 has a chance to also go through the UFP it’s not completely red, not like DM33+ VS say a T80U which I think only the DM53 can go through.
Yeha but it’s not firing 3BM60 it’s only got the 3BM42, so it’s only got marginally better armour than the T72B (1989) at 10.3 as well as better mobility.
plus still a 7 second reload, so the 2A4 is still the better tank overall.
dunno about the t80B but def not the T90S lol
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nor the T72B 1989 but they lack the mobility of the T80B as well as reload rates.
Plus the T90s and T72s have the weakness of shooting their roof as a sort of way around it.
You realize Russia absolutely steamrolls NATO at 10.7, resulting in a loss for NATO 80% of the games ?
Do you realize the reality on the field contradicts your cope ?
KVT gets eaten for breakfast against Russia any time. Even more at top top tier against T90s.
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no they steam roll NATO at 11.3 with the BMPT which as I’ve said needs removed.
at 10.7 they do not in fact steamroll.
mines has over 60 percent winrate buddy.
I’d recommend u learn ur tank lol I got that with one spawn of an M1 KVT against 11.3 russian.
whilst the dude above me got a nuke.
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False. I’m not penning the lfp of a T-80B with a 30mm round. The Ariete(P) however? Easy money. The 30mm round would destroy it.
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Play 100 games between 10.3 and 13.0 as NATO and show us the wins and losses.
Russia steamrolls everything +10.3.