First, I stopped playing top tier.
Second, I kinda moved on and started to play Reforger, Squad and other sim war games. I’ll proly come back once the infantry mode is released, but if they reput in place the bias somehow, I guess I’ll just uninstall and free up 90GB in my drive lol.
Right then, can you leave the forum to folks who want to actually discuss the issue with one another to try and formulate some coherent argument to put forward, so that when it is inevitably read they have something to work off of, rather than “muh russian bias play other games”
Which BTW it’s against TOS to advertise, or tell folks to play other games both on the forum or in-game.
You don’t want to discuss anything, you’re just blindly defending Russia on every single point so your lineups don’t get nerfed.
We all know you
I know lmao
My lineups being?
I don’t use any Lmur carrying heli, don’t use any Kh38 carrying plane, don’t use the BMPTs so what exactly am I defending.
@H_ngma has even actually corrected what I said above with BMPT when I said it should be removed.
I am not “blindly” defending anything, nor have I for many years.
I have objectively looked at and used Russian MBTs which is if you paid attention what I @_Renzo @MotorolaCRO , @pooqich etc have all said to you on god knows how many threads. Are extremely mid MBTs, they have armour, which is all they have.
I as well have Fervently stated on the removal of the lofting arc of the LMUR to bring it back in line with flight performances of other top attacks.
As well as the removal of the KH38MT until further evidence appears of it’s existence?
We being who?
Blind conspiracy theorists who will actively Dismiss every and any piece of information which doesn’t fit their narrative? You’ve many, many times flatly denied statistical evidence claiming it’s “rigged”. You’ve blindly denied factual points about vehicles capabilities due to “russian armour” makes up for it.
When it doesn’t.
So tell me? what do you know about me? how I play or what I play lol?
in fact know what.
HERE
-screenshot of the rank 7 which if you count’ the abrams are my most used. Over 1000 battles between them.
-screenshot of rank 8 of which I’ve not even got 80 battles in russian tanks as they aren’t fun to use
dont even bother arguing anymore its no use
the guy doesn’t actually care about balance or game health
lol
Oh man I’m not gonna read that, way too long
- Mi cannons are incredibly accurate (like, really), more than they actually are IRL. Way more than AH or Tiger cannons.
- Spikes/MMPs are broken (gotta love hitting commander MG 2 times in a row, a cannon then 6 ERAs eating the ATGM) ;
- Bradley TOW-2B missiles are broken (ridiculous damage model) ;
- Tandem ATGMs sometimes get eaten by ERAs instead of getting through (the whole point of tandem ATGMs) ;
- Russian IFVs can launch their ATGMs on the move, while NATO IFVs cannot, for some reason. Also, NATO IFVs need to deploy the ATGM launchers, which takes a very long time ;
- NATO MBT armors being paper compared to reality and russian MBTs ingame ;
- NATO MBTs getting nerfed to the ground (turret basket and electronics everywhere now, except the Arietes I think. We’re still waiting for t-series basket, maybe in 8 years we don’t know) ;
- NATO MBTs not getting their best DART (Leos, Leclercs, …)
- T-series model are broken (ERAs/side armors in general and autoloaders eat DARTs ( Russian Bias in 2026? - #1603 by SnuggyNyx , unbelievable), ERAs eat ATGMs, the whole model eat bombs ( Stalinium armor? - #684 by TROOPER7 : what is THIS seriously ??!)
- LMURs top down approach are correctly modeled, as well as their damage model => AH-64E AGMs are completely BROKEN compared to these, you usually need 2-4 missiles to destroy MBTs/SPAAs/BMPTs
- BMPTs are broken, no need to develop here
- Pantsir-S1 best 12.0 SACLOS SPAA in the game (12 ready-to-fire missiles, multi targeting system). Let’s not even talk about 12.7 Pantsir, this will end top tier experience pure and simple ;
- Tiger helicopters still at 12.7, why ? 8/12 FnF missiles VS 16 for other helis, 7-8 km max range VS 16/25 km max range for other helis, no IRCM, climb slower than other helis, HAC and UHT don’t even have a cannon ;
- 75% of small maps, advantaging russian MBTs because they rush you in corners
- To shoot at russian MBTs, gotta go pixelhunting. Urban debris on the ground ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT does zigzags ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT has bushes all over UFP ? Good luck shooting at driver’s port/breach (especially when you have the blur motion on, and that those bushes will “melt” with the tank’s armor in a blurry weird way). You shoot at russian MBTs from far away ? Good luck, gotta go pixel hunting. NATO MBTs in comparaison ? You point, click and shoot. Simple, easy.
- Russian MBTs don’t need to have the best pen, because NATO MBT armors are paper. They have basically the same speed going forward. They now have basically the same reload speed as well (6.4sec reload = +/- the 6sec reload some NATO MBTs have). They of course have so much armor that even top NATO darts can’t frontaly pen.
- IFVs : russians have IFVs with much higher fire rate, laser accuracy, 2 cannons (1 main for HE/ATGMs, 1 autocannon), much faster than some wheeled NATO IFVs. NATO IFVs in comparaison ? Bushmaster, completely garbage.
- Yak-9k, completely broken.
- Been playing some 7.3 US recently. Noticed something. Russian heavy/medium tanks, and some of their tank destroyer, are almost unpenable, IF YOU PLAY A NATO HEAVY TANK AGAINST THEM. IS-3 ? Gotta go pixel hunting in that turret neck. IS-4M ? Same, but the spot is even tinier (gotta love bouncing on its side with a 224mm pen shell too). T-10M ? Don’t even think you can pen that. Object 268 ? Gotta go pixel hunting in that driver’s port. T-54/55 ? Gotta go pixel hunting in that tiny cupola, berely visible). Hell, even some of their T-34/44 will bounce if their turret is angled weirdly. NATO heavy/medium tanks in comparaison ? Multiple weakspots, side will not bounce against a shell (even against russian SPAAs lmao), if you turn your turret a little bit, you’re done.
- T-series MBTs have IRST + HE + Proxy HE + ATGM shells. Some NATO MBTs don’t even have any of that (EDIT : they just gave Leclercs and I think Arietes HE shells, that’s a start).
- Sweedish IFVs still don’t have IRST
So many more things could be said. NATO SPAAs don’t have cannons. Russia has literally 10 MBTS/IFVs they can use at top tier, worning out NATO forces because they don’t have as many => which leads to constant losses against Russia at top tier GRB. Russia has that 1 ship that doesn’t even exist. KH 38s don’t exist too as well.
As you pay a special attention to balance in this game, I’m guessing all of these make you sick, right ?
EDIT : it doesn’t seem you have read the following part of the post you quoted, so I’ll post it again :
Russian MBTs got massive reload speed buff, I did not see their BRs increased ? NATO MBTs got their basket modeled, nerfing-them-to-the-ground, I did not see their BRs go down neither ?
Why is it always NATO vehicles that have to go up in BR once they’re buffed ?
sure some of those do make me sick (bmpt, cancer cas, premium su30 at 13.3)
others are farfetched nitpicks that are only problematic in your mind
t64b jumped from 9.7 to 10.3
t80ud from 10.3 to 10.7
Way too long? its one paragraph mate.
It’s even broken up into smaller sections for you to understand easier.
So if I had written a big, long post about russian bias would you have read it?
choosing I think now for the 4th time to completely ignore what was said to him.
Literally everyone has addressed this list and pcked them apart.
The only relevant ones, which I even mentioned above is the stuffwhich everyone agrees on.
the vast majority of that list is conspiracy nonsense.
the T80U and such looks as if it’ll likely move up next time around as well BTW, the T80 BVM got literally nothing buffed on it either, realistically the T80B, T80UD, T64A/B and 80U are the only ones affected in teh russian tree and 2 of them got very quick BR changes, the 80B may move up if folks keep doing well with it, and ofc the T80U i already mentioned.
My posting of 3 screenshots completely disproves your nonsense about my being a russian main / player as well.
so what’s the matter ? you cannot actively sit and try spark a debate, when questioned instantly go “I’m not reading that, Way too long”
That’s completely pointess.
Also in my near 4 years as a teacher the reason people tend to say they aren’t going to read it , is simply because they cannot read it.
I’ve made points Which actively agree with the nerfing of russian equipment or their flat out removal and you still cannot be bothered to read it.
It’s not even long.
pretty sure the ue1 already moved up to 12.0 (or was it just before the reload buff?)
Just before the buff man, so likely what will happen is the T80U will hit 12.0 as well soon, the T80UM2 I’d say the same but lack of thermals may keep it at 11.7
im not going to bother getting the 80U because i already hated playing the 80B
like i don’t want to play the tech tree solely for its cas lmao
the T80U is actually nice for it’s BR man, nice n balanced, armours okay, reloads decent, though most folks still reload in 5.8 or lower seconds bar the leopard 2s.
rounds again decent, nothing to write home about but certainly can do work if you use it right.
thermals are dogwater but Gen 1 at 11.7 is painful.
mobility is meh same as T80B, good forward but if you muck up positioning then it’s a waste of time.
others are farfetched nitpicks that are only problematic in your mind
- Mi cannons are incredibly accurate (like, really), more than they actually are IRL. Way more than AH or Tiger cannons.
- Spikes/MMPs are broken (gotta love hitting commander MG 2 times in a row, a cannon then 6 ERAs eating the ATGM) ;
- Bradley TOW-2B missiles are broken (ridiculous damage model) ;
- Tandem ATGMs sometimes get eaten by ERAs instead of getting through (the whole point of tandem ATGMs) ;
- Russian IFVs can launch their ATGMs on the move, while NATO IFVs cannot, for some reason. Also, NATO IFVs need to deploy the ATGM launchers, which takes a very long time ;
So those, for example, are just “farfetched nitpicks that are only problematic in my mind”, not actual facts, right ?
I must be coping, those are not actual balance issues I presume.
t64b jumped from 9.7 to 10.3
t80ud from 10.3 to 10.7
Did NATO MBTs went down in BRs as well, after the turret nerfs ? Absolutely not.
dont put words in my mouth you farthuffer
did they go up in br after getting numerous reload buffs one after another? again quit it with your selective scrutiny
So if I had written a big, long post about russian bias would you have read it?
As it will never actually happen, you don’t even need to ask.
Dude can’t even say spikes are broken, I hardly see you write such a post.
Also in my near 4 years as a teacher the reason people tend to say they aren’t going to read it , is simply because they cannot read it.
No no I can read my man, and what I read was “Spikes are not broken and work perfectly fine”.
From that moment, there is really no point at all reading further.
