SA 313B Alouette II

Yep, and with the Tohou bullet hell the M163 can out out, thats all you need.

No clue why LRF was seen as having any real importance.

No clue. He also kept refering to the radar as irst for some reason. It was confusing

Playing a BR range allows you to recognize issues within that BR range.

I’ve been grinding through the American tree as I was interested in having a lineup for their Squadron vehicle and I’ve been grinding their helicopters.

If your argument is that I have learned that there is no effective SPAA against helicopters until 8.3, no I always knew this. I just didn’t play a nation which didn’t have an 8.3 SPAA.

I’ve made threads previously saying helicopters are too strong as they outrange direct fire SPAA.

This specific helicopter has been left behind after the recent BR increases of their direct counter.

Half the nations in the game do not have an effective counter for this helicopter in its BR range. That is unbalanced.

I am not the best at math but I think 8/10 is more than half.

No i just explained the root cause of the thread. Which is identical to most of your threads.

You died to x → make thread about x

But no, SPAA has the means, at least in the case of the M163 and ZSU, to engage relevant helicopters.

If you are 100% reliant on a lead indicator to attack a helicopter when you get range data with the radar, im sorry thats actually a skill issue. By definition it is.

I will admit that tge m163 does not give lead past about 1.5km. But as the other guy said, you can spray a whole lot of ammo with the mini gun. Some heli trying to aim his missle will either get hir or miss his target while trying to dodge.

There are only 6 nations with 8.3 SPAA, 1 is of the nation the helicopter in question is a part of, Italy’s is in question.

That’s 5 nations.

The root cause of this thread is that helicopters outrange SPAA.

Your personal ignorance of the game is irrelevant to the realities of the game.

Not counting the m163, 7 nations have spaa that can deal with it. Just because an spaa is not st the same br doesnt mean that it cant be effective.

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You can not lock a helicopter until it is within 1KM with the beforementioned SPAA

2KM with an 8.3 SPAA

Most SPAA don’t have LRF to give distance which is what I have stated repeatedly as being necessary, not the absence of a lead indicator.

Just going to bring this back to you. He wasnt the one who thought radar was the same as irst and that laser range finders are the only way to engage helis with cannon spaa

Well idk about you, but i did just explain how i, and many others, engage helicopters at long range.

You have the range information to do it

The M163 is not capable of engaging the Alouette at the 2-3KM range which is what its missile is capable of.

Yes you do, on 8.3+ SPAA.

Which is why i chsnge the 8/10 to 7/10

I just locked a heli past 3km wtf are you talking about?

In a Gepard.

Which is 8.3 which is the br you said was only 2km

You mean this one?

I like it.

Different radars have different strengths. It’s also a part of the nation the helicopter in question is a member of.