How did catching Tigercat go? Bearcat? Right, uncatchable… also why are we talking this stuff in tanks thread again?
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I already mentioned about bearcat on my previous comment in case you didn’t noticed as for Tigercat you can add it to list if you want but remember, for every single broken us plane there is almost 3 times more in almost every single tech tree.
Never forget that.
Dont know just got here and noticed the conversation about us planes.
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Technical Limitations - ie we’re not skilled enough to code it
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A WTlive mod already exists lmao
WT Engine is specially designed to turn normal tanks into premium tanks with as little effort as possible
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And the goalpost has predictably been moved.
You very specifically complained that only Russia is allowed to have vehicles which never entered service, only reached prototype status, were test beds, etc. That claim is nonsense and the massive list I could come up with off the top of my head already proves it’s nonsense.
So instead of admitting your claim was hyperbole, you’ve now moved the goalpost to: ‘‘Oh but they weren’t easy to play’’, but then you conveniently leave out the fact that the Russian stuff also isn’t universally easy to play.
But that is of course typical for the average Russian Bias complainer that hasn’t actually played Russia themselves. They’ll believe that ‘Grass is always greener on the other side’.
But ignoring everything I just said, I’ll still debunk that with:
- FV4202 didn’t require any skill one release. Stabilized lolpen gun with insane frontal armour for the time.
- XP-50 was the gold standard for horrendously overpowered P2W props for years and years.
- MBT-70 didn’t require any skill on release, just hold W and curbstomp Chieftain Mk10’s, Type 74’s and T-64A’s.
- T58, lol.
- Coelian is just Hold LMB and watch the shells glitch their way through armour holes and frontally knock out IS-3’s, T32E1’s, T-54’s, etc. etc.
- T29 is hardly a high skill ceiling vehicle.
M1/IPM1/AH-1Z were significantly more overpowered for 7 straight months than the BMPT is.
But that is conveniently forgotten about.
Because for every one of your cherry-picked examples of Russian favouritism, you can find multiple examples of NATO favouritism.
The difference between you and me are:
- I’ve actually played both sides, and I know what vehicles are/were actually overpowered.
- I don’t cherry-pick examples only from one side of the argument. I can acknowledge that the BMPT is broken, but also that it isn’t any more broken than plenty of non-Russian vehicles have been throughout War Thunder’s history.
You don’t seem to understand what the argument was.
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- ammorack eating spalling and not generating any (for all tanks, but will affect russian ones mainly)
- Re-align values between Western and russian NERA (western one is a pure guesstimate from Gaijin anyway)
- not for the tanks but on the CAS issue : LMUR 8 => 4 on Mi28MN (no wiring on the inner pylons for this missile), remove KH38MT on all planes (KH38ML can stay)
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Russian ones mainly? Why? How is not spalling inside of a Leopards turret less bad than it happening in a RU tank?
Ask western sources to provide whatever they have since pretty much all data on RU tanks comes from them and their capture of east german T72s and alike inspections.
Any data about the lack of wiring for the LMUR?
KH38MT is arguable yet not entirely unrealistic
Though this is a topic about tanks so basically the last point is disregarded.
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Because the ammorack is sitting inside the turret basket on T- tanks and not on any western design ? If a round pens in that area, it should blow up no questions asked.
Modern NERA packages like TUSK, AZUR and the brit one i can’t remember the name of are a bit more recent than old cold wars t-72s, so I fail to see how they can conclude anything from such “studies”
Sure
This has been discussed to death already, I won’t comment on it again
Not quite, this topic is attached to ground battles and one line up capability does not depend on tanks alone.
I will agree that russian tanks aren’t the best currently, more like middle of the pack, but if you buff them like it is suggested, one nation will get :
- best tanks or among the best anyway
- best helis (Mi28 + LMUR)
- best IFVs (or whatever BMPT is)
- best fixed wing CAS (KH38)
- competitive AAs (Pantsir + BUK)
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The t80bvm in real life has a reload of 3.7 when the autoloader is already on the ammo that its loading since it does not need to rotate to get any amunition but that would make it unfair
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If a penetrator going like 1500m/s enters a tank, ammo or no ammo the crew turns into Rio Mare Patte so EVERY tank is done…best case scenario is you run out of the tank. Weird shell behaviour is just as bad on every other nations tanks as it is on RU…
Well TUSK,AZUR and whatever isnt in the same BR bracket as Kontakt-1 is it? Also arent they made for completely different purpose? Battleing shaped charge only? Genuine question
Regarding LMURs, I have no idea honestly. Couldnt care less about Helis in general so if theres data, fine
38MT, Izdeliye 65MT, GRAU Index, company offering it all suggest it exists but isnt being produced but okay.
Oh btw I am DEFINITELY NOT suggesting that RU tanks need a fair buff! Gaijin should firstly clean up their codes so that stuff behaves reliably and only than we can see what needs adjusting…
Necrons if only a few words… how do you explain flightpath of hellfires/jagms vs lmurs? why wont they repair it and buff them out specially that lower br ka-50 is a beast? how much obvious things like that need to be for you to stop denying bias?
Edit: This up there is only one example of obvious things. and the only reason russia dones not have betetr w/r is because a lot of ba dplayers switched to them and are using high tier premiums for fast XP gain…
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Soo basically “Source: trust me bro”
Not sure about LMURs launch options but Hellfires arent exactly wrong since Hellfires DO have the option of launching stuff without the LOFT option
Ka-50 a beast? huh?
If a similar source was posted about the NM having the ability to mount 8 LMURs, you’d be all for it lol
So far 1:0 in favor of NM not being able to mount 8 of them, tho.
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more like still 0:0…
I’m not a CAS player and I have no interest in modern aviation, I’m not qualified to answer in the slightest.
As always: For every case of ‘‘obvious’’ bias for Russia, you can find multiple examples of ‘‘obvious’’ bias for non-Russian vehicles/nations.
I’m just not cherry-picking my examples to suit an agenda.
I’m not entirely sure if it’s fair for you to criticize ‘‘Bad players’’ when practically every high tier tank you play is sitting on a negative K/D.
You also can’t seriously act as though the average US or German high tier player is any better than the average Russian high tier player right now. It’s a total clownfest across all three.
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Well honestly that linked source is just as good as 38MT having GRAU index, offered by the company and being linked to the Izd. 65MT seeker head so if we accept that semi source for the lack of existence of 8 LMURs why dont we accept the semi source for the existence of 38MT?