A couple hundred mm of KE protection, because Gaijin doesn’t believe that Germany improved its armor since the Swedish 90s test trials.
Obviously the more modern ammunition that the L55/A1 was designed for. And the tracking that the DM11 was designed for but sadly only one type of tracking is allowed for MBTs rn.
Maybe there’s something in this post?
Looking at forum discussions on Oplot there is so much conflicting statements I don’t know at this point.
This seems useful, however, its for a anti-tank grenade warhead. The physics won’t translate over to APFSDS but this still proves that edges of ERA can’t provide the same KE value as the center.
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Its the same effect…Duplet uses physical contact with the rod, Relikt uses sheering forces which have the same effect of destabilizing, breaking the penetrator rod. They dont like lateral forces and Relikt puts exactly those on them which makes them snap, tumble, bend… it all has the effect of reducing the penetrating power of the rod
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Which likely would not affect it much in game afaik. This is on the UFP no? It already ricochets in game.
There is a reason we don’t have this.
Nice to have, but niche. It does not make or break a tank.
Yeah but like I said it essentially means that the version in game has nothing in common with the real one so calling it a 2020s design when armor, ammo and fcs is 90s is disingenuous
I guess that is fair. But what 90s Leo 2 had all of this stuff 2A7V has in game? I’m just curious.
Oplot-T was ordered in 2011
Duplet-2M was publicly shown in 2017
My question is why Duplet-2M is worse than Duplet. That seems odd.
Every since the armor is based on the Swedish trials from the 90s, the ammo is 90s the only new stuff is the uparmored ufp and 55A1
It’s not the same… Relikt ERA is good at shearing, im not denying that. My point is that cutting the rod is more effective than shearing. There are primary sources backing that up.
I found something online https://www.ukrspecexport.com/uploads/files/Categories/pdf_5/be2e23.pdf
But it does not state what round was used for this 80-90% figure. So I don’t think we can use this as a proper source.
Are there actual comparison tests of Relikt and Duplet? Gimme gimme pls lol
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Using this as a source is just like using russian brochures about KH38MT imo…always very skeptical about the accuracy of them…but this with the weight of it and the layering definitely could provide substantial protection
Are there any info of the type of explosive and the amount of it and the amount of the thingies that cut through the penetrator rod? Maybe we could do a rough calculation?
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It is not unlikely that the 80-90% figure was drawn from testing a very old round like 3BM15 on it.
idk, ERA can ricochet my bullet, and when enters the tank, dissapears. Of course RNG and server stuff are a issue.
Which on their part would be theoretically true thus boosting the effectiveness of the ERA but ofc its different for every round… the US A4 penetrator MIGHT with a BIG might go through it?
Very very different.
I would say A4 is turning the Oplot’s pronouns into was/were.
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It’s smaller and uses a different metal. They switched from copper to aluminum because copper corroded too fast.