What’s bait, the fact they’re in charge or that they’re the biggest offenders ?
That still doesn’t tell you anything.
People could just be playing tanks, without even spawning air.
We found a sales brochure that offers the missile to it’s customers.
You have to find something.
Gotta love whataboutism
Come back once you have some evidence that the 38mt is not real because unlike you I have a picture od an Kh38mt mounted to an aircraft and not just a picture advertising tvc for operating countries of the Eurofighter
the second.
Not entirely true. You can filter for games played which shows 13.0 games that can only be achieved with the Rafale. And thats 1.5 mill for USSR and 293k for France, it would be an insane stretch so say that they have a similar playrate.
literally impossibe since there isnt anything.
Its not whataboutism at all.
Heres a test document for the TVR https://web.archive.org/web/20140520003353/http://ftp.rta.nato.int/public/PubFullText/RTO/MP/RTO-MP-051/MP-051-PSF-12.pdf
and heres a video https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringPorn/comments/nbkki1/eurofighter_typhoon_thrust_vectoring_nozzle/
You have a picture in a pamphlet of something being mounted on a plane, no test documents, no production documents, and no documentation what plane could even carry the weapon
Yes it is
I asked you for proof that the Kh38mt is fake and you come along with tvc for the ef
That is the end of this if you can’t prove anything stop it
Its not whataboutism, both have similar levels of proofs for existence, for both its not enough to warrant addition into the game. Yet one is in game and the other isnt. Its an example to show the double standard not to disprove the existence of the MT
I guess you’re ignorant to things that were happening not even a century ago.
Fair enough.
But saying that Rafale is not so much of a big deal just because it’s played less is an extremely awful argument.
You can’t prove a negative, at least that’s what you said. Zhuhai brochure was hidden from the western eyes for months just because it was posted on Chinese sites.
So get back to searching.
Until then 38MT is very much a real missile.
Im not i just dont see how that would be more relevant for people nowadays than all the stuff in recent history.
Its not an argument, its an explanation why ground rb complaints about the Rafale are lower than about the KH38
Not how this works, theres multiple statements and examples that Gaijin requires the weapon being testfired by the respective or a comparable plane to warrant addition.
Also if its real then why is there no evidence whatsoever except for an old brochure?
It’s real just doesn’t function like it does in game.
Cannot track moving targets in IR mode as stated by the missile developer. For moving targets they recommend Radar or SAL mode.
Well, some are implemented with certain features (e.g. guns) that were not actually “as built”. Where the actual project acquired different ones, to make up for delays and there were no prototypes of the preferred armament actually completed but they are implemented anyway, with an estimated stat block by scaling up existing shells to the planned caliber.
It’d be like the US suddenly getting the Tillman IV-2, from the series of “Maximum Battleships” simply because Construction was started as a single armored plate was cut for the project, to be mounted in the senator’s office until it was to be installed into the hull.
If you think that you should look up the definition of whataboutism
This was about the Kh38mt and not the ef
You presented a prime example of whataboutism
Whataboutism - Wikipedia Whataboutism - Wikipedia
noun: whataboutism
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
Its the same issue, features added to the game via flimsy sources. Theres a direct correlation
You just dont undestand what whataboutism is
Yes that is exactly what you did
You couldn’t present any proof that the Kh38mt is not real so you switched topic to the tvc nozzles of the ef
Just because it isn’t happening to you doesn’t mean it’s irrelevant. Those things shouldn’t be as easy to forget.
War in AFG ended like 3-4 years ago and people already forgot the atrocities. Seems fit.
And it shouldn’t be like that as Rafale is as good as anything wielding 38s.
Rules that apply until they don’t.
There’s multiple pieces of evidence to back this up.
Remember our talk about filler stuff ?
Brochure is from 2024, so it’s not really old.
It might very well be a niche missile with not so many units made or sold.
And such is the case for many things.
Hammer is a great example of this as well.
Hammer is! Gaijjn have just copied and pasted the AGM-65 seeker algorithm on every IR ground attack missile.
So they have their own Kikka, I don’t see that as a big issue.
But bad opinions compound, its not like Russia was a saint in the 20th century.
debatable for ground rb
Yes WW2 additions from 8 years ago should be handled differently than modern additions.
or none.
No they both are part of the same issue in the same game. You cant just cry whataboutism every time someone brings up an example you dont like.
Because you cant prove a negative so i brought up an example with the same issue but a different status in the gamee
You can prove something to be fake. So unless you can do that, please dont say things without any evidence.
Just like the russian/soviet, with the difference of them building less ships, mostly before soviet times.
Just like the Yorck, the kronshtadt and Soyuz ships could not be finished due to a war.
Because of?
Fair enough.
Bbbbbbut they deserved it.
No, you just likely caused most of his brain matter to commit sudoku with that screenshot you displayed.
Again, you projecting is a YOU problem.
I dont care about it in the slightest. You can do this as much as you want, at that point you just pick semantics instead of an actual argument, because let’s be fair, you have none. You already started with with your semantics BS.
I had a language teacher in HS just like you and she was equally as insufferable with equally bad takes as you.
His FINAL claim, aka his conclusion.
This is like the 20th bloody time i am explaining it and it gets a bit too much at this point.
Hey, let’s say this:
2+2 is 4.
Water is wet.
Humans generally have 2 legs and 2 arms.
Earth is a globe.
THEREFORE LIZARD PEOPLE CONTROL THE GOVERNMENTS.
All of those initital statements are true. DOES IT MEAN THAT THE CONCLUSION IS ALSO TRUE?
There is no connection between the initial (true) claims and the conclusion.
I refuse it because it is not there.
And the P40 is OP since it was added and they refuse to fix a bug that makes it even more broken so italy bias? Yeah, does not sound braindead “argument” at all.
You dont want that way buddy.
Next time before you criticize others, maybe look around your house first :)
Here there was no need to debunk his sources or any of his 20 examples, since his conclusion can be debunked even if we take the 20 things as true.
If a flerf says 20 true things and then say the earth is flat with no connection between the 20 things and the conclusion, then i dont need to debunk those 20 to show that his conclusion is incorrect.
For example?
I dont deny information.
No.
Also i ignore the connection? I mean i guess if something does not exists then you cant do anything but ignore it…
It points towards HIS confirmation bias.
You mean " dissuade"? English teacher btw…
You mean “actively” counter? English teacher btw…
See? you try to criticize others for their spelling from your ivory tower yet you yourself cant spell properly or use proper words.
Of course unlike you i dont give a crap about how somebody spells or what words/grammar they use as long as the meaning comes across.
So, responding to:
I dont need to provide source. No connection between the initial 20 things and the conclusion. no sources are needed because the argument is already invalid…
And i did actively, sorry i mean activity counter what he said by pointing out the obviously missing connection.
Most of them are not…
And here goes even more projection. English teacher btw…
Then it is a real thing.
LOL.
I mean if he is in that room then he likely would not believe it as he would be reduced to atoms.
If that is true, and that armor plate was unique to that ship then i think it can be added.