You are referring to our previous answers on manual reload speeds. Autoloaders have always been source based. Such as when the Leclerc was most changed prior to these changes: Community Bug Reporting System
Leopards are manual reloads.
" in addition to the fact that the reload time is a balancing tool (for tanks without a loading mechanism)"
The Leopard 2 should get buffs!!!
Why are autoloader source based and manual loaders get artificially long fantasy values?
Isn’t it unfair? Ingame, Leopard tanks have almost 8 seconds reload base value. I guess you know that the requirements for loaders are far more strict? Any loader who needs 8 secs would never pass the exams.
Its just not how a video game company should handle things. You can easily get source based values for manual loaders, too. Its all on youtube and what not. You can literally see them doing their job. They can easily reload 10 times in a very short time.
It’s called an untrained crew for a reason.
I don’t expect you to understand this.
Which Reloads (stock, expert, ace) does Gaijin use when looking at the state of balance for a vehicle? The difference between a stock and aced crew is 1.8 seconds for a Leopard 2A6 thats quite a steep difference @Smin1080p_WT
Its almost the chance of untrained tank crews in western tanks is ZERO. They all have to fullfill a minimum standared or they won’t roll out.
In contrast, there is a very high chance that the desired shell in a russian autoloading caroussel is farther off and requires much longer rotating than just 6 or 7 seconds.
Newsflash, this is a game.
Smin what is the new set precedent of the autoloader speeds now?
I assumed it was the minimum amount of time a tank could sustain a reload but that has clearly been changed
A game which favor eastern tanks mainly. First the turret baskets, now reload times. Its a bit onesided currently. A global reload buff without adjusting BRs should be a nogo. Its one of the most important stats of a tank. You can’t just change dozens of tanks by -1 sec reload.
No, western nations had the best tanks for years now.
Three tanks getting a 1.1s reload buff is somehow dozen(s) now. Classic Thodin.
BVM and 90M had 0.1s reload speed buff.
This is a fully stock an untrained crew. Not the reference value of a trained crew in game.
I don’t think the solution here is “hey you can get a 6 second reload too if you spend money”
Even the elite Leopard 2 tanks still have a slower reload speed than the 6.0.
I think they’re too slow now, in comparison. THe autoloader is too fast or the elite tank crews of western tanks are too slow. It can’t be that this strange russian caroussell, is at 6 seconds base, while western tank crews are at 8 secs, bit better with full training. But still slower now.
I def agree 0.1 seconds is def a buff not worth complaining about, tho the tanks that got the 1 sec reload buff might have to get their brs looked at other than just the T64B, but i think were the friction is coming from is the fact that in GRB Russia kind of has the best vehicles in every other category, Best CAS, Best Heli, Best AA , so when players see them getting a buff and combo that with the massive neft to survivability that some western tanks got and its no surprise people are pissed.
Name as it truly is. 1 sec less reload is a major buff to any vehicle. BRs need to be revised for those.
80B might move up but 64A ? Hell no.
All this time it was a 9.0 vehicle sitting at 9.3 for some odd reason, so I consider it fixed now.
And which of the reload values for manual loaders are being used when Gaijin evaluates the state of balance for a vehicle? The differences are quite big
Especially since autoloaders can’t be killed and protect from spall in russian tanks. Quite alot advantages. And now, all of the sudden, they will be even faster than an elite crew?
What is this about? Leopard and Abrams recently had a massive nerf with these turret baskets?!
They can be destroyed, leading to longer repair times.