No aware tank can be peeked at
It really isn’t without giving it a artificial buff
Side scraping exists.
It doesn’t need one to go to 9.0.
And so does shooting at the track to stop side scraping and not to mention big aphe rounds
It would all 9.0 vehicles have a good stab that are better then the ones found in 8.3 and auto rangefinder and a lot more apfds fighting thing with a lot better mobility and accuracy for long distance engagements
Guess what.
Tanks at 9.0 don’t have big APHE to overpressure you, unlike what T58 can do to them if they even show a single pixel of themselves.
Good thing long distance engagements aren’t common at 9.0.
AMX-30B2 was at 8.7 without a stabilizer for a very long time, don’t see why T58 couldn’t take the helm and be the first one at 9.0.
It’s simply too oppressive at 8.3 to be moved up by just a single BR step.
But that doesnt explain why technical moderators dont act like that. Saying something when you do contrarily means you just not saying the truth.
Yes I know but then how long can you ignore them before saying “they are all source based” is not just true a year, maybe 5?
If the enemy is gona kill you either way I will rather try getting gun on target first. Especialy at 9.0 most of the tanks cant survive hits even frontaly.
I am not saying it wont survive just that the gun handling wont be your strength anymore.
If 12.5% was the difference in reload you wouldnt act like that.
And APFSDS can easily hit precise spots past 500m. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
BRMs are inconsistent at best, which is why people tend to contact Technical Moderators here, so they can review the documents and make an internal report about it.
Source based means that they won’t just go around and fiddle with the reload whenever they want, unlike on manually loaded tanks where reload speeds tend to jump all over the place.
You can’t know that.
Your side is always much weaker than your front.
Well, T58 needs to lose quite a bit of it’s strengths in order to be balanced.
Reload is tied to your every shot, moving your barrel up and down isn’t.
4.5s reload vs 4s reload is much more impactful than 4.5 degrees of vertical traverse vs 4 degrees.
That wasn’t from 155 mm it was from a Russian 122mm and 9.0 is filled with better heat and apfds but with better capabilities like composite armor in general it’s filled with more modern mbts then what you can find 8.3-8.7 witch can affect the friendly team of t58 as it would be useless
T58 isn’t useless at any BR, let alone 9.0.
ok then aim below the gun, and L sarcasm.
Guess the AMX-13 is OP and should go up then.
T58 is a monster to kill 1v1. However, it’s still definitely possible similar to the other tanks. It’s armor is easily penetrable for its BR. you can disable it easily if you get the drop on it or even kill it. It’s definitely one of the harder tanks to kill but not impossible.
The damage model often tends to absorb shots that penetrate without doing significant damage.
Often? Is it common everytime? I think all tanks at one point or another have eaten one shot shells where no damage is done. I took it to the analysis board and just shot its weak spots.
It’s very common.
Has anyone submitted a ticket for it on this forum and gotten an answer back?
Haha like that matters
Well, at least it’s an expensive premium so we won’t see hoards of them everytime.
Still almost as OP as the BMPT. Its so comical how its a whole BR lower than it should be. Same with the M60 Rise
I see the T58’s situation as somewhat similar to the Object 279’s.They are complicated tanks to balance.