So what about the issue of carrying capacity of 3bm60? It should be limited to a maximum of 15 posts, but I haven’t seen any response
speaking of russian autoloaders, will we ever see the ability to manual crank reload when their autoloader breaks?
don’t russian tanks have to centre their gun though to properly reload due to the autoloader, same with leclercs, when it comes to leopards etc its just an assistance thing and not necessary.
VT-4A1 is 12.7.
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i see. well, he said vt-4. if ppl are struggling to even name the vehicles correctly so you know what the points they are making is even about then idk if this discussion makes any sense to begin with.
What discussion? Just people crying about USSR/China getting some changes. Nothing productive here.
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you can blame a CERTAIN playerbase that started throwing a tantrum about the VT-4 for Thailand, yet they have no issue when they get a ROC Abrams because why not
VT-4A1 is just a VT-4 with an APS, besides that they are the same tank. So that is why people just call them VT4, both are arguably overtiered.
And it’s a mid APS as well, we are not talking a black night level APS.
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Im not so sure about bein overtiered anymore.
Ever since they recieved spall liners and reload buff they became much better.
Funny how ZTZ99 and WZ1001 didn’t receive spall liners but VT4’s did.
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It gets even funnier when you get to the reload buff. The VT-4 and ZTZ99A get a 6.7 second reload, but somehow the WZ1001 gets a 7.0 second reload lol.
But yeah I forgot about the VT-4 getting spall liners, I haven’t researched and am not planning to ever use the normal VT-4 and I have only recently started to play the VT-4A1 again to grind the HQ11 and M1A2T.
However I still think both the VT-4s are on the weaker side of their BRs, but maybe not overtiered levels of weak.
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I stopped playing with 99’s ever since second VT4 came.
Now with reload buff and spall liners they are better tanks in my book, also from visual point VT4>ZTZ99 in my book
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Thats a man of taste. People always forget how important it is for a vehicle to look good. Nothing beats being the best looking mofo chilling on an airfield in a custom battle (and laugh about all the others in their ugly but OP tanks /s)
Looks should be considered when putting vehicles at a certain br xD
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Well when Chinese tree first came out I didn’t even bother to grind it, but as soon as they added VT4A1 everything is changed.
Norinco cooked so well that even a NATO enjoyer like me decided to grind it.
I was mainly talking about the top tier ones, the lower ones were… still a good balance, the A4M has better thermals and similar armour to the abrams, worse firepower and similar/worse mobility, that I think is a good ‘balance’ not necessarily saying it was any where near good, but average.
Same with 90% of tanks, the chinese and russian tanks will lose the autoloader, which is just as bad since u can’t fire at all for another good 30s. The ariete… nvm forget about their survivability, chally, merkava, none of them have better survivability, and yet a7s have better, and the rest similar armour to them. The only ones that come out on top is the russian ones, but we all know their reverse speeds.
I mean it is GRB, I would actually much rather GAB as a metric for tanks, even though it is unrealistic and all that, no CAS or heli, no SP, 3 spawns per person, and no nationality issue.
An example.
I mean VT-4A1 and VT-4 are basically the same, VT-4A1 has next to the same K/D.
They have minor differences, but given the T84 can literally use the same rounds as VT-4, I think not much is changed. Also judging by videos they are pretty similar.
Same.
Would like to see, since it is possible. spending 30s fixing autoloader is pain.
They are virtually the same. Also I never played the ‘VT-4’ and I have been saying VT-4 prior to its presence in game, so appology for using the wrong name but they are virtually the same tank.
They are for sure better, but armour is still among the worst in top tier, and the spall liners… Plus many people think they are actually as good as NATO tanks in mobility when in reality the reverse really hurts its ability to retreat and the bad depression sucks.
I beg your pardon?
Iırc they changed the ufp armor behavior and made it better.
Now sure its not the best protected tank but I still love it and prefer over 99’s.
As for the reverse speed that’s on Gaijin, VT4’s should have the same reverse speed that 99’s has but Gaijin refuses to fix it.
Irl al khalid uses the same SSAL as the VT4
So you trade penetration and spalling for 0.4s faster reload speed.
Looks like a sidegrade at best to me.
Can NATO stuff also be fixed please?
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3BM46 is getting 6s flat right? Might run a match or two to see if it worth spading the T-80U, since I got the UM, shooting the hull of 2a7 or 122b is a hit and miss, even if it pen then it sometimes generate no spall that only turns the modules or crew slightly orange, spall liner = roll dices