Revised poll on CAS in Ground Battles, would you play a tank only mode?

Yes, that is partially true. I think there are always options to be added. There is a disucssion about british SPAA to be added and there is a truck that fires ASRAAM. Would be a very good top tier SPAA for Britain.

But I still genuinely beleive the best next step withwise to CAS in GRB is to address the issue.

I’ve listed on here already a long list of changes that could be tried first. Throw in a couple dozen more SPAA systems spread accross all nations and some much much needed overhauls to things like Heli and Plane damage models and I think things could change, maybe more than enough.

If that is all done, and things dont improve much, then I think TO would be a good addition. Just feels like running away from the problem than addressing the problems. With a TO mode, the answer to changes to SPAA/CAS would just be “go play TO” not lets try this change and based upon this thread, at least 50% of the playerbase want combined arms

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I did say it depends on BR and nation.

France gets the radar AMX-30 DCA and SANTAL at 8-9 which do fine as SPAA. Before that thought the AMX-13 DCA isn’t the best SPAA.

It also gets the AD-4 and F4U which are great CAS planes.

CAS is Over Powered (mostly 8.0 and below). Anyone that says differently is either lying or incompetent

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CAS is only thing that allows US ground on 5-7 br live.

No, it is not. And you have no proper argument to back your claim up.

Insults are not an argument btw and do not make your case stronger.

Everytime you call someone a liar or a c…, it weakens your own position.

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Wut?

France have sereval good CAS aircrafts,…

The Santal is fine as an SPAA ? It can’t lock helicopters beyond 2 km and the missiles often just won’t fire for whatever reason.
Yesterday I played it to see if things have changed but no. I was being chased by a heli I couldn’t lock while it was just spamming missiles at me and there was nothing I could do as a freaking AA.
Next battle I locked an aircraft but the missiles just didn’t want to launch ! I clicked 7 times before it finally went out but it was too late and I died.

Yes the 30 DCA is fine. But that’s litteraly the only fine SPAA in the entire tech tree.

Both are copy paste from the US … if i choose to play France, then i would like to play french design or i’m better off just switching to the US TT.

Sure it is. But then if we all have good stuff to counter planes, then why not just simply remove them from the game ?
You won’t make the game fun for ground without making life horrible for air. If there’s AA everywhere, then CAS simply won’t spawn. For me it’s mission acomplished of course, but then why not simply remove CAS then ?

For example, when facing russia at around 8.0-3, I simply just don’t spawn CAS as there’ll be at least three ZSU whatever simply shredding me the moment I approach.

But that simply isn’t true. One well played CAP can already defeat any CAS right here right now already…doesn’t mean they should delete all bombers and strike aircraft.

There is a difference between everyone having an SPAA to deploy and to delete CAS from the game.

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Adding a new mode doesn’t mean deleting anything from the game

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also… This is Gaijin… I seriously doubt they would leave both. It would be TO or Combined arms. Not both.

Why not?

We already have multiple types of each mode (arcade ground, realistic ground, sim ground, assault ground, arcade air, realistic air, sim air, assault air)

I see people saying there’s no room for an additional mode, but what stops it from being a weekend event similar to Heli PVE or Naval EC?

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People say there’s no room for a tank only mode because they know it would be more popular than combined arms and don’t want to lose easy bombing of tanks.

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Poll says differently…

And why? thats stupid reasoning. Thats a bit like me saying I think people want TO because theyh dont have enough skill to use SPAA

The people on this forum represent a small fraction of the player base. The polls don’t represent the majority of the players.

If SPAA was as easy to use as CAS, you might have a point.

So… Does that not invalidate your claim of “most would play TO”?

Of the people I know that started playing war Thunder and quit, revenge bombing was one of the main issues.

The main reason i’ve stopped playing GRB is not due to CAS, but due to the crappy spawn systems that end in being spawn killed anywhere from the first 30 seconds to first few minutes. 9/10s I respawned in a heli after first death not another tank or spaa because I know i’d be spawn killed if I tried that. Not too mention the fact that I play Britain, 99% of our GRB power at the moment is purely and entirely locked in either heli or CAS jets. We dont exactly have good tanks at the moment.

GRB has many, many issues. From bad map deisgn, bad spawn systems, bad balance, missing features, etc etc. Remvoing one thing from the gamemode is not going to fix any of those and in fact I reckon that CAS deals with campers, especially spawn campers and actually makes games less one sided at times.

CAS needs adjustments sure, SPAA needs some buffs, sure. But GRB has sooooooo many problems, that I dont think this would change anything, it would just make other elements even worse.

Lets try to fix some of that imbalance. By giving better CAS to some nations, like China and better SPAA to other nations. Like everyone except Russia and China. Tweak SP costs, lower the average BR of SPAA, etc etc etc etc. If none of those work, then lets try TO on a limited basis, maybe just as a 2 week long event. Lets do this properly, not, lets nuke 50% of what makes WT, WT and not WoT

Overall, I’m not opposed to combined arms. I’m opposed to the idea that CAS should be as important or more important that ground vehicles.

There needs to be major restrictions on CAS. Seeing half the players in the air as soon as they get the SP proves how broken it is. Ground strike load outs are way too cheap. A kill or two and you can start ground pounding. That shouldn’t be the case.

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