Revised poll on CAS in Ground Battles, would you play a tank only mode?

His experience in reading and watching YT is enough as far as I understood …

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Ah, yes, the cherrypicked videos and biased comments he uses to form an opinion and cry for changes to a gamemode that he doesn’t even play…

Probably watching @ULQ_LOVER’s 15 kill Corsair footage, thinking that this is a standard match for any pilot.

To get to ULQ’s stats though, any 15 kill match he survives is followed by three matches in which he dies without a single kill. (Simplified mathematically speaking)

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I could have done 15 K/D tho, just didn’t want to sweat up ;)

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I have explained you more than enough times :)

Yes, you have zero experience playing CAS and gather your knowledge from Youtube videos. These videos mostly show ingame situations that are far from the norm and therefore occur very very rarely btw.

You then use that “knowledge/experience” to demand changes for a mode that you don’t play.

And still, you lie about being an experienced CAS user.

So, your “explanations” are invalid and you are the only one being dishonest here.

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CAS is balanced. It costs 8x as much to spawn a plane than to spawn a tank already and 10x with ordnance. What more do you want?

As I say in every single one of these threads. Pilots come to GRB, because ARB is a 10 year old stale mess and it sucks ass. If we at least had ARBEC, the CAS would vanish from GRB overnight.

I think plane itself (or at least a fighter) should cost even less SP in GRB to be able to spawn them on first spawn. Individual ordnance is what should drive the SP cost up.

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There are now multiple players here, after talking about “morality”, who believe J-ing out to deny another player a kill is “moral”, because “they” do not like War Thunder GFRB. Especially the one who does not actually play the mode, so purely hypothetical on their part.

What great players to enjoy a game with!

The gymnastics is real!

Yes there are silly comments by those that do not have an issue with CAS, but then THEY are not needing to convince others to THEIR cause (aka we would all play a TO, or at least try new modes, THESE TO advocates are supposedly proactively attempting to convince Gaijin against their own choices… BEST OF LUCK :D).

The mind boggles…

Yet videos/screens of effective use of CAP/SPAA are swept aside… hmm (and yes, people have backed up their experiences the same as others).

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Then the next self proclaimed CAS main I discussed with showed a whopping… 1.5 Ground kills per match. The same level of Air Kills per match I got with my fave CAP the A7M2, where there are a lot less targets up per match (there are generally more ground targets per side than air, overall across battles and battle duration)

So 1.5 Ground Kills per match is apparently proving CAS is godly (Because occasionally multi-kills are proof of something).
So 1.5 Air kills per match is apparently proving CAP does not work (Though one trying to use stats again never every plays the mode).

Discussion has long gone again. Hiding behind one player’s stats when their own are nothing special seems to be the main assault tactic.

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Yes, there are air and ground targets, these targets can also take you out in your one spawn player vehicle. Have you played the mode to find out?

Would YOU want to play a tank in the original Air Mode?

If so, why? Considering the already explained, multiple times, reality.

The evolution of the game from ONLY air (the only reason WE ALL get to play Tanks and Ships, without the Air original and its popularity you would have… Armored Warfare, World of Tanks… yes?) was clearly defined by those that made the game to be true combined gameplay where players could use different assets. The game you CHOSE to play regardless of you not wanting the Combined modes.

Well done, you picked the wrong game and later expect changes. Yes, changes that sound reasonable on paper but conflict with the actual MAKERS of the game. The ones you need to convince, since your provocative nature is not winning hearts and minds.

The reality of a free for all, do what you want, combined mode, is a total mess, sure. So would a TO, with players all still doing their own thing and from what I saw a majority just wanting to line up and face bang with no thought. No more flanks is from how people use their ground vehicles, not air. Enjoy your dumbed down game… oh wait, you don’t play the mode in question :D

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I can spawn plane with bombs and rockets for around 600 SP, while tank costs around 100, So Your math doesn’t add up

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No video, just screanshoots that shows some effectivnes but it is even further away from norm than my videos

It takes a wrinkly brain to try and extrapolate conclusions from single datapoints like ULQ does, but HO doesn’t even use his own stats to do it. Surely the most wrinkly-brained forum dweller.

Still better than talking without providing anything to back it up ;)

Yes, but people do “back it up”. When being reasonable it appears a lot can and does happen, often contradicting one another.

I have yet to see OH back up anything, along with most others with similar attitude. And Burgerman with his not impressive 1.5 ground kills which show his multi kills as occasional and not the norm.

I only saw one person showing screanshoots of SPAA being Effective. Sadly this screanshoots when looked at his stats couldnt be called even closed to norm

Correct. But you guys are the only ones crying/whining/drawing bad conclusions, and using bad evidence to back it up.

So now wanting something else or seeing current state of things as bad is „crying” or „whining” especially when there are things backing it up? As long as there is nothing stating that things provided are not showing the game, there is nothing „bad” about it

Not the Heli bug video XD this is a bug issue, not a SPAA/SAM issue. Shot it before with Type 81 C as well and it still flew like nothing…not really a SPAAG/SAM issue but a dumb bug on that glorious undying Heli that Gaijin needs to fix.

No, but obviously some players do whine and refuse helpful advice. Often the opening comments of a topic are not well rounded and show lack of understanding of the game of course this topic is a poll, but the other topics on the same conversation)

Your stats/vids/screens back up your play not theirs. People cannot hide behind your stats, which are not the norm. Do you believe your experience is the norm? If so they hid from most of my games!

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But they show what can be done and archieved. This is their sole purpouse, not to say that this is happening all the time but what can happen if air is being well used.

Why would it be like that? Because people refuse to belive what can be archieved if air is used correctly and how unbalanced it is compared to what can be done with a tank.

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