I guess he is talking about free ones only
Many maps are stupid in general for a multitude of reasons, yes.
Ideally if you know where they are coming from, you could pull that one famous stunt during a Balkan conflict where a SAM was dumb-fired in the general direction of an enemy plane it could visually see, and the radar was turned on only when it was too close to dodge the missile. But I do not know if most SAMs are even capable of dumb-firing (only saw a funny video of a FlakRakRad memeing tanks once on Reddit).
Other than this though, CAP would be intended to fill gaps SAMs cannot easily do.
My totally op top tier spaa not giving me a lock or radar lock in a high flying helicopter and a low flying jet.
Now if a spaa with such tall radar have issues with low flying threats, imagine a small radar like claws or elde…
These are obviously cases where SAMs need to be (re)buffed. Radar moves at light speeds, so any plane within the scan cone should immediately show up with next to no delay. Helicopters with their rotating wing blades even more so.
Well mostly you dont
They can come from 360 arc around you
Planes Meanwhile just have a very narrow angle were aa can be
Again you dont zoom around the entire map in most 11.0+ aa
They can be in spawn and pretty much only in spawn
They should open up the map all the way to heli spawn Pad
Exactly this. For a while, my favorite tank was the M56 Scorpion. If CAS was up, I was almost always guaranteed to die. So I asked why there wasn’t a ground only game mode, and pretty much what the entire conversation came down to, was “play SPAA”. Now, it’s the opposite way around, and it’s been great to read. Maybe we should ask for SPAA in ARB? Keep things fair?
So the solution to pantsir/iris-t op
Is to say just spawn a tank
No, seriously don’t. Us tank mains need some rest from all the steamrolls and spawncamping. SPAA spam only makes those issues worse.
That has got to be the most skill issue Infested comment I have ever seen.
I don’t think it’s right to kill two enemy tanks, capture one base, and eject to respawn with a jet carrying 16 to 24 GBUs or six AGM or KH missiles and completely ruin the game.
I love how this is like the one good thing they finally did and people still complain. We need as little cas as possible so this is a huge win
Are you still stuck ignoring the blatant Russian bias era? Keep licking them Russian boots bro
Because Russia has bias spaa Russia also has the most bias CAS lol so only Russia benefits 🤣
Please explain how getting strafed in the M56 is a skill issue on my part? I have 2 plane kills in the M56, which I think is pretty impressive considering it has no automatic weapons, and is open topped.
Don’t be out in the open
Oh yes, great idea, I will totally help my team by sitting in a building. Surely a bomb on the roof of said building wouldn’t kill me right? Surely every map has the ability to hide in a building to begin with right?
Sounds like not enough bushes on top
If you know CAS is out there looking for targets to bomb what do you do?
- Stay in the open then go to the forums complain when you get inevitably bombed/strafed
- Find cover
Planes don’t have omniscient markers all over the map telling them where you are at all moments, just don’t move too fast or be in cover
What if we just make a pool of vehicles that could be given for free, and then it is random which 1-2 you get each round?
Please tell me where I can find non-destroyable cover on Fire Arc.
Or how about Sinai? Both versions, big and small.
And what about positions that I can still maintain play from on other maps? Where I’m not forced to just sit and wait until the plane goes away?
I’m not saying it’s impossible. But especially if you want to actually play, it’s not an easy task either.

