I’m not entirely against CAS, I just wish for something separate so if CAS starts to annoy me, I can play something else without CAS, instead of just dropping everything and getting in SPAA.
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with how many prem users pop up near or at toptier, at least these Free AAs give them a reason to not be 1 death leavers and contribute to keeping the hell that is CAS and helis away
Of course it does, it explains why people portray CAS as OP.
And what is wrong with it? That is just true.
So in order to spawn SPAA, You have either play it from the beginning or die first, that is again an issue for people who are in a tank.
Sorry but the only one lacking any substance is the one who doesn’t understand what he himself wrote:
You have pointed out that ground vehicles are much more popular meaning that people playing ground battles are mostly interested in playing ground.
That is why they have issue with air being able to kill them while they are in a tank and that they mostly can’t do anything about it.
Sorry, but you and your ilk have irreparably harmed large swathes of aircraft functionality even in their own game mode, helping make that a stale mess.
The moment folk like you started causing such “appeasement nerfs,” you lost all right to demand such a game mode. Was it the intended purpose of you guys? No, but it was the reaction you got from the devs. I blame you guys first and then the devs for what resulted, because your complaining provoked them.
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You call yourself a tank main and yet you constantly cry CAS is too expensive and SPAA are overpowered. Curious.
The pairing of plane vs tank or tank vs SPAA is literally the same in terms of fighting back in top tier. A tank cannot do anything against a plane just as a SAM SPAAA cannot do anything against a tank. (Sure a SACLOS SPAA can track or maybe even kill a light vehicles but the top of the line missile SPAA cannot engage tanks at all)
You’re still clinging on to an argument based purely off of semantics. Just because it’s called “ground” mode doesn’t mean it contains ONLY ground vehicles. Arguing that aviation should be excluded from ground battles from this logic is even more ridiculous.
Aviation plays a supporting, but still essential, role in ground game modes. It serves as a force equalizer: strong and weak tanks alike can all be destroyed by CAS attacks. The presence of CAS allows for dynamic gameplay, since campers are the easiest targets for aircraft. As said by @ULQ_LOVER , a King Tiger is much harder to take out from the front with a M4A3E2 than a 2000lb bomb.
CAS encourages teamwork; targets which are scouted or marked can be destroyed by a friendly air attack. Light tanks would be much less powerful without air support to back up their calls. And as you said, the existence of SPAA is determined by CAS. Without CAS, we lose the entire dynamic between air and ground, which is an essential element of ground battles interesting to many. CAS is realistic, historical, and important.
Yeah but this is different? This isn’t some idea driven by nationalism or patriotism, this is just looking for a way to please a player base that wants fights to be based purely on the skill of another tanker, not the tankers ability to get enough points to drop bombs on people who can’t fight back. It’s a completely different set of circumstances.
Go cry to gaijin then. Don’t blame us for wanting the mode we like to be playable.
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And yet current CAS is badly lacking nearly all of its other ways to influence match outcome besides just direct anti-tank duty. That is why it needs reform and not removal.
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I thought the whole maim point of the light tank scouts was to make your team aware of enemies location. Be that tanks or planes and usually you see scouted targets be taken out by tanls more than planes.
Actually the FlaRakRad was particularly good at killing nato MBTs like the leopards and abrams back before gaijin nuked SACLOS guided missiles into the dirt, you lobbed that VT-1 under, near the hull roof or into the roller wheels and you’d overpressure them, optics shots worked against russian tanks like the BVM and T-80Bs
As I have said, I don’t want CAS to be removed, I just want a combined arms mode for ground and aviation, and for ground to remain ground only.
That statement isn’t as profound as you think it is. It quite literally does say it on the tin, in the very first sentence.
Ideally you would do this by making the counters as simple and easy to effectively learn and use as the CAS that is killing you currently is. That way, the game says an unspoken ultimatum:
“If you have problem with it, kill it yourself. Don’t like it? You picked the wrong game.”
Nerfing harms everyone at the end of the day and helps nobody, and should only be used as an absolute last resort in my experience.
I know that is why I pointed out the top of the line SPAA which seems to be the biggest isyue these people have with the new free vehicles. (I had a game recently where I got 4 tank kills with the Roland so it can still be done.)
A: Hide yourself behind buildings, rocks or even trees the same way you avoid being MG-ed by tanks
B: Read this:
Same logic. You are to be shot by the smallest bullets in the game and it’s part of the balance.
So why aren’t air players forced to accept using tanks and AAs in ARB ?
It’s the first day of 2026 so I believe this is the perfect time for you to ditch your bad habit, double standards.
Yes, create TO and revert all aircraft nerfs.
So simple but you still can’t get your head around it.
People rightfully complained and devs decided to do the less good thing.
The fact air got nerfed just shows the number of complaints was pretty high, otherwise Gaijin would just turn a blind eye to it.
You seriously live in some kind of a fairy tale land.
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I too want the mode to evolve into something better, FYI.
I just do not see any form of “aircraft-free mode” as part of that evolution, much less a necessary part. If it happens at all, it should only be well after all of CAS’s actual problems are properly solved.
The description is much more like buying a bottle of orange juice only to find it has mango and carrots in the ingredients list