This level of hot takes usually only comes from Alvis, what happened to you?
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What happened is I actually fought the F8F in battle instead of just hopping on the “America plane OP” bandwagon XD.
So you fought some random ass player in an F8F and won, so now the F8F is worse than a Yak-7???
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There is a significant difference between saying “F8F is bad” and “F8F has a high skill floor”
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Maybe because you believe that your congress got scammed by two loony pillocks /s
Even if we consider that your claim about damage per hit is 100% right,
I’d rather use M61 over ADEN. DEFA, BK-27 (no, not the Gripen’s one. Tonka’s one. Tonka’s belt is quite worse than Gripen and contains PT ammo)
Moving the goalpost. I compared it with other fighters, not bombers.
:LOFL:
Bollocks. We still need to consider those unless Gaijin fully removes it.
SHAR is one of our proudful fighter jet and backbone of FAA which completely CRUSHED both your fancy F-5E and F-15 in training flight. this is utter nonsense.
Maybe they swapped their account? /j
Just like how Alvis claimed that “I beat F-14A with Mirage IIIC, which has no CM and RWR, so F-14A isn’t OP as you guys claimed” long ago. :D
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I blame GRB.
CAS, in particular.
People feel obliged to get planes to succeed in GRB.
They don’t want to fly planes.
So they do the easiest way to get CAS: brainless bombing.
We get the results in both ARB and ASB. AAB is probably excluded because GAB gives you free planes.
The second blame is jets.
People don’t care for WW2 aircraft despite how awesome they are.
They just want jets without learning WW2 style dogfighting… and the fastest is zombing unless you’re good enough to get consistent skill bonuses.
I wish F8F at 6.0 in sim wasn’t co-BR with the Ju-288. Would give youtube footage of gameplay otherwise.
Unfortunately, it is 6.0 in sim and that means dead BR full of Ju-288s which makes the BR unplayable regardless of plane chosen. And it’s a very touchy plane to fly (not like spitfires, but still departs flight more easily than corsairs)
I do leave this here:
It’s the cannon F8F, but comparable.
“Flightmodel in the F8F is REALLY weird.
It’s very unique
It has very good climb until 3000 meters where it really tapers off,
EXTREMELY good acceleration for a prop
Your turn performance is odd - your sustained turn is worse than F4U-4B, horrible energy retention
If you find yourself in a protracted turnfight you end up very slow
But you can offset it with your acceleration
It’s also very easy to wingstall and put it into a flat-spin.” (paraphrased from 03:40)
“F8F has a very low stall speed and very good flaps with a very powerful motor.
This means that even though you bled a lot of energy, it can just keep pointing its nose at you.” (in context of fighting Ki-84 and Yak-3 around 6 minutes in)
Additionally he notes while it’s decent at 1 vs 1 fights, it is vulnerable to being third partied if you actually go to dogfight people rather than stay at max speed and just do hit and run.
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Dozens of times, and a fair share were experienced lvl 100s. If you’re struggling to fight the F8F, that is purely a skill issue.
F8F is just mid. Not bad, and certainly not undertiered. It’s less accurate to say it has a high skill floor, and more accurate to say it requires more skill to match other common planes.
I massive disagree with you there.
As did I.
Yes, we should consider them by buffing them, not being nerfing one singular arbitrary vehicle that they happen to face just cause you personally don’t like it.
Sure is an interesting description.
I would like to see you to NOT struggle vs anyone who plays the F8F with the monitor turn on.
If you are in the game i will not mind teaching you how good the F8F is in a 1v1
What makes it mid?
Please, answer this question too, I beg of you
Oof, now moving into ‘Mad cuz bad’ theory…
“Experienced lvl 100”…
War Thunder account level 100 doesn’t mean that he/she is skilful.
I don’t think I am as DEFYN does, and maybe you might not be as skilful as him either, even though we both are lv100.
Because you excluded every bad planes out of the table!
in the name of “NO ONE PLAYS IT”
Just like how Gaijin balances the vehicles. Are you a Gaijin shil? /j
Why? Just because our 30x113 acts better than 20x102 on ‘single shell damage’?
Your M61 has significantly faster ROF and better VEL.
If M61 was really that bad, why did you guys use M61 on F-14/15/16/18/22? :|
Quote-mining…
You mentioned B-17 to rationalise why you excluded inferior fighters. That is why I mentioned that. facepalm
Just like how Gaijin sent F-15A down from 13.0 to 12.7BR a few days ago, eh?
Inventing the argument again.
I never told you that F8F is ‘EXCLUSIVELY’ needs to be nerfed.
Oh, and if I really personally don’t like F8F, maybe it’s because of kind of you.
Just like how I became F-14 hater inside War Thunder even though I had good memories thanks to Tom Cruise, Mr Scott & Bruckheimer, and Miss Nagase, oh, and the ‘Chopper’. too.
AHIIIIII WHAT DID I JUST WAAATTTCHHHHH
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nah SBMM destroys all games it touches
Joke take
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It’s not going to be SBMM. The goal is not to get a forced 50% win rate. The goal is to keep zombers and their ilk away from human beings.
Agreed with this bombing nonsense - i noticed a hell of FR-1 players playing basebombers too 😂. In general i do not care about F8F-1s or its BR. A P-47-D28 or P-38 L is imho a bigger threat.
The F8F-1 is now for ages at BR 4.7 and despite facing them quite often i was lucky as i lost just 2 planes to F8F-1s. Both were (extremely rare) excellent pilots - one caught me low very late game (Mysterious Valley) and BnZd me to death and the other guy managed to out-energy me below 3 km alt as i overused flaps & air brake on New Guinea - so a skill issue on my part - the raw engine power at low alt is insane.
Usually F8F-1 pilots die first as they use their insane initial climb to head-on the first red marker they see. And - their pilots suffer always from “too early too low” and are just a pain late game (in the rare cases they survive the initial merge). So if you get asap above 5-6 km and keep your alt long enough they are easy picks. But to be fair, since the flap nerf of the P(F)-47s energy traps became way harder to execute.
Just put it back at 5.0/5.3 where it originally was. It’s mainly limited by armament
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