I think this is coming with the CM overhaul. These canister I believe are flare only. So adding them now would mean more chaff as well as flares. With CM overhaul and seperated flares and chaff. These could be easily added without messing up other things. The same reason Tornado IDS only have 56 CMs (28 per pod) even though IRL each pod had 28 flares and 600 chaff.
Tornado has large caliber CM yet MIG-29 does not, gaijin literally hates MIG-29s right now for some reason
I didnt think there was actually any difference in the flares themselves other than the name. Ones on the Tornado IDS dont even reliably defeat R-60Ms I find. But if that is wrong, and you have evidence of it using large calibre. submit a bug report
İ believe ET is the worst one When it comes to getting affected by this issue.
According to company who builds R27ET, it should suppose to lock enemy planes from at least 50km İf im not mistaken.
The thing with other ir missiles, none of them can be compared to R27ET because its basically a Fox-1 missile with IR seeker kinda like MICA-IR.
Gaijin will probably fix this issue once they add Fox-3 like you said.
İt lacks proper flight model and additional countermeasures which both of them are critical in survivability at top tier.
Yeah, Sounds more like a game limitation than “intentional nerfing”
He did say its just lacking its “FM” which means Flight model and I agree. If its Flight model is wrong, then it needs to be proven and it will get fixed (Heck look how bad the Tornado was when it was added, and it still not finished/correct). Though if it was incorrect and is now correct, even if that means its worse, then it should not change
Counter measures I think will come with CM overhaul
Why russian mains are crying about R-27ET?They literally got one of the best IR missile in game.Why cant they use R-73?
You guys already have R-27ER for BVR,why do you want a undetectable BVR missile?R-27ER is good enough for now.
R-73M sits between 9X and 9M, 9X equivalent is R-74. As if US has a lot left to add , only 9X left for them in terms of İR.
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İ can ask the same thing for us mains.
Why do they keep crying and demanding buffs for F-16 while it can destroy anything at top tier.
Clowns like @SlowHandClap accusing me bein Russian main while in reality im a french main, destroying every single Mig29 in my Barak-2 or Mirage2000.
Considering F-16C is even better then Barak-2, i dont see a single reason why they should cry.
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9x has 3 major blocks that could come separately
B1 = 60g TVC HMD and IRCCM
B2 = LOAL
B3 = Light BVR, Datalink
Question: was anybody even asking for F16C (or anything higher than Block 30) at all prior to this update?
if it is, then its a whole lot closer to 9M than 9X. Especially in aspects like boresight where it is essentially similar to 9M. And i dont see the information to make the claim that it is notably better than the 9M.
I mean its in the category of “5th gen” heatseeking missiles, well at least the R74M (whatever the izdeliye 760 is) . How it actually compares is anyones guess, but id hope it matches early Aim 9X not that id bet much on it.
well there is
Aim-9M upgrades, idk what variant we have in game
Aim-9R (First Focal plane array models for the navy)
Aim-9X Block 1
Aim-9X Block-2
Aim-9X Block 3 (edit: TBD i suppose on that one, but 9X blocks seemingly had mid service upgrades aswell, so there is flexibility there, edit2: that is the sort of things the Focal Plane Array seekers 9R and onwards allow one to do)
All of which id say have notable step ups in capability. After R73M, untill you get to the late R74M stuff which is where iirc they finally get the type of seeker the 9R uses, idk if there is much of anything noteworthy. Like Russia did seemingly not have a good time replacing their seeker supplier in Ukraine after 2014.
So as far as im concerned, the R73M would probably fit nicely along side other late non-focal plane array seekers like the late 9M models.
I don’t see anyone demanding buffs for F-16 tbh. The G-limiter on the F-16A was the only occasion, and that has rightfully been corrected imo.
I don’t really care what you are. But you seem to want Russian fighters to be made better than what they were in real life. Vatniks come in all flavours, but they’re all equally deluded.
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R-27ET isn’t comparable to any IR missile in game.It is a long range IR missile.F-16C/D gets AIM-9M but a long range IR missile isnt a counter to it.
So currently theres no point of buffing it.Instead gaijin could give R-73 realistic IRCCM(Which it probably has).Also they can fix AIM-9M’s IRCCM and give it realistic performance.Fixing AIM-9M would make R-73 the missile with best IRCCM in game.
Either you are a really good player or the players you face suck at this game.Currently it is nearly impossible to beat a MiG-29 at BVR combat.Things do change at close range but if the MiG 29 user knows what he is doing he can still defeat most jets.R-73s are good enough to fight back other jets at close range.
İf that is the case why are you still mentioning about my name on other thread?
İts clear that reality touched your nerves and you simply cant accept the fact.
Didnt asked any buffs for R27ET, simply stated why the missile cant lock-on to anything beyond 5km.
İts clear that either you never used R-73 or you dont have any idea how both missile’s IRCCM works. Current R-73 IRCCM shines at close range while its the opposite for Aim-9M, in reality however R-73 should be superior to Aim-9M at any range in terms of flare resistance.
Currently both missiles performs perfectly fine in flare resistance department and none of them needs buff.
İm not gonna flex on my skill level cause its pointless.
Also its actually quite easy to beat Mig-29 at BVR department thanks to addition of MAW system and RWR rework, although its not gonna change the fact that R27ER’s are still best Fox-1 missiles.
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Sure kiddo cause anyone who defends a Russian vehicle becomes automatically Russian main or vatnik.
İts pointless to argue with someone like you cause no matter how many times we discuss you will refuse to see the reality and cope every single time. Average Russian hater in nutshell.
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Yes I haven’t used none of them.But I have faced a lot of them(Also died many times).
In real life AIM-9M had a slightly worse IRCCM than R-73.
Also did gaijin nerf flares? Seems like flares dont work even with 0% throttle in F4J.I haven’t been able to flare a single 9M/R-73.
No they didnt.
Your flares didnt work because both missiles have very powerful IRCCM.
Thats why im saying both of them doesnt need any buffs in flare resistance.
in game R-73 is guaranteed to be 1 TAP flared at 3KM , in front/side aspect its even worse, gets 1 single flared at ranges like 1.5KM, meanwhile 9M can ignore 10 flares at 4KM side aspect