Can someone explain why the F-4S is 11.0 in Ground RB but the F-4J is 10.7? They have identical Ground loadouts and the same missiles. The only reason I can see is the F-4S radar being harder to notch and leading-edge slats, but does that justify its higher battle rating since it’s nearly identical?
Usually, the ability to kill planes in Ground RB is more important than the ability to kill tanks just look at the Z-19 / Ka-50
I agree, except In ground RB the main weapon of the F-4S is the Aim-7F, I’ve found planes usually fly at altitudes where IR missiles are more useful unless you have a player who’s trying to enter orbit. I’d have to disagree with the Z-19 as the TY-90 that makes it great is on helicopters at 10.3 up and the KA-50 can be strong at taking down planes but is not very difficult to counter as it’s missiles only pull 10 G’s and it’s cannon can be out maneuvered.
I suppose having aim9h instead of aim9g is also a small factor.
F-4S radar being WHAT?! (F-4J and F-4S have the same radar)
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The Aim-9H is a renamed Aim-9G, I’ve never seen a difference between them
It has a better tracking rate.
Granted it used to be much better.
true, but it’s still an AIm-9 with the same stats as the Aim-9G. It won’t make much of a difference. and with vehicles like the SU-25T that have IR jammers it’s useless as it can’t even lock them, and with the 20mm cannon doing next to no damage to them their even harder to kill.
How can you agree they have a difference but say they have no difference in the same sentence?
That affects all IR and isnt a valid reason.
What belt are you using?
1.its seeker is the same size and it pulls the same so flairs send it like a bug to a bug zapper
2. it’s not effected by all of them, it’s 11.3 so it’s not going to work on all-aspect missiles unlike the F-4S that has no Aim-9L’s so it can’t fire side on where the jammer doesn’t work.
3. Usually Air or Default
There is more than just seeker size and pull.
Fair. Although it wont hit if the su25 isnt tunnel visioned.
Try the AP belt. I feel like it works better.
Id guess the agile eagle.
Not only does this make you more potent in a dogfight, especially in a gamemode where every fight is basically WVR, but you are also more effective in defending against SPAA and getting into position to attack or re-attack ground targets.
The other 10.7 Phantoms like the British ones (normally at 12.0 in ARB) dont have agile eagle but the Kurnass which I think does is also 11.0 (but only 11.3 in ARB), and unlike the F-4S doesnt even have PD radar so I dont think radar performance has an impact
there can be, but when the missiles only difference is a slight increases to tracking rate it’s not going to change much, I’ll try to switching belts but it could be just the mk11s damage because it seems the Vulcans more damage
the agile eagle can only get you so far. at it’s BR it fights vehicles that are far better then it in a dogfight along with the fact you don’t have a 11.0 lineup to use with it meaning you have to move it to 11.3
12 to 20 d/s
The vulcans have a higher rate of fire. They are easier to aim too.
I do wish the f4s and j had the vulcan in the body.
Its a decent upgrade. You can do good dogfights with it
Not having a line-up is a shame, but not a unique problem, happens too often unfortunately.
as for whether things can beat it in a dogfight, I cant comment, though I know that the none-Agile Eagle Phantoms it would face in a dogfight at 10,7 at the very least wouldnt stand much of a chance.
it can fight the AV-8B+ that has Aim-9m’s and Aim-120As
- thats a 12.0 aircraft
- Nothing can beat a harrier, especially a harrier II in a low and slow turn fight. I’ve destroyed enough F-16s in the Harrier Gr7 to know that
The aim120 harriers are just weird br wise. They cant really go up or down.
At least their lack of speed nerfs their aim120s
Harrier gr7 my beloved
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Just wait for the Gr9A with a better engine and HMS