Proposed ground **Vehicles** RB battle rating changes

[UniqueScorpions-live]

@Whiskey_077

Also they’ve nerfed last update : max speed + engine RPM lost. No more reason to raise them in Battlerating.

We’re dealing with a gentle fanatic player, his ideologie and then, he alienates the community against him with his insane proposals.

I am not a fanatic, and even if I was, if you carefully read the list, the Italians got the best deal.

[Whiskey_077]

@Your_Local_NKVD

What? its still 60km/h in both reverse and forward which is still decent…

we’re talking about Tigers II…

[Whiskey_077]

@UniqueScorpions-live

the Italians got the best deal.

Sure…

[Your_Local_NKVD]

I was replying to pzh2000 comment you made…

But all right for Tiger II, what is wrong with it? Its gun and armor is very good for its BR range, in downtier BR it shreds half of the team unless the one driving it is dumb…

[Whiskey_077]

@Your_Local_NKVD

But all right for Tiger II, what is wrong with it?

@UniqueScorpions-live proposed to raise their battlerating :

@UniqueScorpions-live

Tiger II (H)s 6.7 > 7.0 (USA heavy dispersion happening, thus Germany gets it too, and the Tiger II is equal to the T34, and T30 in terms of performance).

That’s what we talk about now : nerfed. But yes I toke the wrong message for citation. Apologies.

@Your_Local_NKVD

Yesn’t :

- YouTube

(irony, he die by my artillery few seconds later)

[YaSen]

RN Peperoni
I prefer Margherita though.

Regina Margherita class Battleship

poll Hello, I would like to suggest Regina Margherita class pre-dreadnoughts to join WT in the Italian Naval Forces Tech Tree. This class of ships along with Regina Elena class pre-dreadnoughts, San Giorgio and Pisa Armored Cruiser classes should work as transitioning ships between heavy cruisers and battleships in the Italian tech tree (barrlecruisers equivalents compared to other nations). This suggeston is a remake of the one from the old version of WT forum RN Regina Margherita class Battles…

[Your_Local_NKVD]

@Whiskey_077

That’s what we talk about now : nerfed. But yes I toke the wrong message for citation. Apologies.

I say thats kind a fair to put it in 7.0 because barely anyone can pen tiger II at its BR unless they have 155mm howitzer, missile, darts or HEATFS…

Talking about tigers II, they should add Jagdtiger to the mix because that shit gave me PTSD in one of the snow maps where that dude just sitting inside of the tunnel of capture point A one shotting my team and barely gets scratched…

T-T

[Whiskey_077]

@Your_Local_NKVD

maps where that dude just sitting inside of the tunnel of capture point A one shotting my team and barely gets scratched…

Frozen Pass, I understand. that’s why CAS is here to remove those vehicules.

[UniqueScorpions-live]

You: avoids lookin at the list, merely to come up with some magical idea of Russian bias

[Whiskey_077]

Saw the list few months ago, most of the suggestion is not sense. that’s it.

[Your_Local_NKVD]

Then why not list out the flaws, I don’t think calling “most” of the suggestion nonsense will ever help you defend or even create your point… -_-

[UniqueScorpions-live]

It’s because he doesn’t have a point like others before him. He’s just annoyed I listed one of the tanks he likes, or is annoyed merely because he thinks I’m in favor of Russia

[Whiskey_077]

I prefer to talk on a official battlerating change topic, where the consensus can be observe by CM and others members of the staff. but okay :

@UniqueScorpions-live

T-44(FM) 6.3 → 6.0 reason: very bad armor / survivability, also a poor gun for 6.3
Its pros are mobility and BR-367 which is understandable for 6.0, but 6.3 is pushing it,
It has far too many weak spots or enemies pen you everywhere.

IS-6 7.7 > 7.3 (terrible reload, bad gun depression, gunner optics are a big weak point aams as roof hatches, bad penetration, not equal to other 7.7s in performance, being typically equal to or slightly better than the IS-3, not enough to warrant a br difference).

T-54 (1947) 7.7 > 7.3 (absolutely terrible vehicle, other than armor, gun handling sucks, shell is okay, turret traverse is like a panther D. The cons make fighting vehicles with HEAT-FS a living hell, as your armor was made to stop AP, APHE, etc).

@UniqueScorpions-live

KV-1E 4.3 > 4.0 (it’s true only pro being armor, it cannot fight a lot of 4.7 / 5.0 / 5.3 mediums, let alone heavy tanks, the fact is consistently sees panthers, and Vk30s makes it worthless.
It should get a new shell, or go back to 4.0, as 4.3 is too much when better vehicles are about.)

KV-1(Zis-5) 4.7 > 4.3 (the Sweden one is 4.7 with a far better turret and same gun, making little sense why they are identical in BR placement.)

All those vehicule are fine in their battlerating, has a current player of them for meta SRE or in game.

@UniqueScorpions-live

2s38 10.3 > 10.7 (decent jack of all trades, lacks armor though, however it probably shouldn’t see 9.3s)

11.0 minimum, set to AA and losing its Scout/drone ability.

@UniqueScorpions-live

Conquerer 7.7 > 8.0 (excellent armor and stabilized gun with a good round)

It’s a early APDS, 105 L7 gun is better in 8.0 and it’s a heavy support vehicule.

@UniqueScorpions-live

AMX 50 (TO/90) 8.0 > 7.7 (being slightly faster, with less armor and penetration than the somua, with a APHE round, it never made sense to move this to 8.0 after its battlepass ended, as 8.0 and up it struggles to fight a lot of vehicles if they’re stabilized, well armored, etc.)

Bat chat should need the same effect, but the situation about APHE is the concern of majority of the vehicule. Then the modification’ll be corrected, we can talk about all battlerating.

T-54 issue is decompression (again), 7.7 is de minimum of them the 1947 variant is no sense, made PTSD for all 6.3 -6.7 player (7.3 is 60-70% top tier or set in 7.7 games)

You’re missing alot of vehicule to ‘change’ for their battlerating. First of all, decompression (14.0 for tanks too) need to be set, not just ‘13.0 for top tier’, all vehicule need to move up. Mecanism of multiple shells, dammage or module need to be ajusted/modifityed/applyed/corrected.

etc.

And…

mostly Russian player what I’m saying, same has I’m a British player.

[UniqueScorpions-live]

Bro… you don’t think forum moderators check on all posts?

Great I’m a Russian main… who has played 70% of the game. Your point?

Also that high horse attitude gets you no where.

[Your_Local_NKVD]

@Whiskey_077

T-54 issue is decompression (again), 7.7 is de minimum of them the 1947 variant is no sense, made PTSD for all 6.3 -6.7 player (7.3 is 60-70% top tier or set in 7.7 games)

@Whiskey_077

that’s why CAS is here to remove those vehicules

I think you should follow your own advice you give to others in order to wipe out those vehicules :D

[Pangolin_Fan]

M4A3E2 5.7 → 5.3

M18 6.0 → 5.3

Both belong together at 5.3. They’re practically romantic partners.

[Whiskey_077]

Jumbo 76w vs T-54 1947, sure.

Beside fix HESH, ammo blow panel( can explose. During 2-4 sec during reload, not if the panel is close ), soviet non-blowing carrousel historical ( hit ammo into T-80T-72

[Your_Local_NKVD]

@Whiskey_077

Jumbo 76w vs T-54 1947, sure.

Just like you said, we can use the cas with 1000lb of freedom blessed by mcdonalds :D

@Whiskey_077

Beside fix HESH

Wdym fix HESH? HESH is already competitive ammo that destroys barrel, breach and can 1 shot tanks…

@Whiskey_077

soviet non-blowing carrousel historical ( hit ammo into T-80 or T-72, allowed to make more time in the sky their turrets than Su-57 after getting a hit in the munitions)

You can already achieve it when you max out your ammo like on any other tank…

[jspene-psn]

I bought the T58 today and it is ridiculously strong. 5.75 K/D in 10 games.

The 155mm HEAT loves to OP light tanks, and even if you get hit with HEAT jank (which is admittedly common) you can fire again in 2.6 seconds so it literally doesn’t matter.

Funnily enough my biggest issue with it is that I run out of ammo too quick.

Unfortunately I don’t see it moving to 8.7 because 1) it’s a premium 2) it’s not stabilized.

[UniqueScorpions-live]

It’s still way too low br.

I have 200 games in mine with a steady 4.21 kd.