Proposed ground **Vehicles** RB battle rating changes

Give it its real life spall liners and(I believe) thermals and move it to 10.3/10.7. There is no place for an autoloading early 2000s SPG with a laser rangefinder in late WW2/early cold war tier. Its thin armour refuses to fuse APHE and even when it does the fighting compartment is too spacious.

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Then the tanks with Heat Fs can either go up, or have them removed.
TEC has a good idea about modification based brs. So say a M36B1 or whatever its name is, could be 5.7 without Heat fs but 6.3 with or something along those lines.

I think that may be a bit high… but I could see them going to 8.3
I think the thing that sets it apart from things such as the Vidar, is its survivability and fire power. It loads at what 5 secs per round?

Those new low tiers ones are equally as annoying.

Also if you’d like the suggestions added to the list, please format them the way I had.

Which they won’t, because so many vehicles are balanced around being countered by HEATFS, that you fuck with entire ranks, and that’s too much effort for gaijin

The thing is it doesn’t really matter what BR the pzh sits at, it will always one-shot whatever it hits, and tbh it will perform better at modern MBT tier where it historically belongs anyway as tanks are not conventionally armoured and more susceptible to HE fragmentation/overpressure. It would make more sense balance wise to just give it the spall liners and put it with its contemporaries where it belongs, instead of having this weirdly out-of-era 2000s tanks facing T34s and T-44’s

the low-tier howitzers are manageable, and the 6.7~ tier SPG’s like the m109/bkan are manageable too. But high-velocity, high-caliber, autoloading HE with laser rangefinder and thin armour to not fuse aphe is just wrong in ww2 tier

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If I ever do decide to do non WW2 vehicles than I plan to use it in Top tier because if I’m not mistaken it’s still used to this day. But the only non WW2 I plan to do is Israel.

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A tank won’t become better just because you slap some BR number on it XD. What really matters is who’s controlling it… though I guess many people still haven’t realized that. Do some folks actually think tanks drive themselves like in a football simulation game? Much weaker tanks can burn down stronger ones simply because one is driven by John Lecrec and the other by Leopard Julia, you get me?
We need skill-based matchmaking. But right now, I’m starting to feel like this game is turning into a FIFA-style collecting game, where nothing on the battlefield reflects reality. Gaijin said they wanted to make a unique game… well, they succeeded XD. They’ve created the planet’s number one game where matchmaking doesn’t work and injustice scores a 12 out of 10. So yeah, they really did make something unique.
You’re calculating BRs and debating whether one tank should go up or down to make things fairer… but the tragedy is you’ve forgotten about the person driving the tank.
There are some truly great players out there, try to understand that. Even without cheats, no matter what tank you sit in or where your BR is placed, they’ll burn you because they’re pros. So go ahead, keep crunching those BR numbers one day you’ll realize that number next to your tank, at best, just reflects its year of manufacture :)

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I’m begging for this! Level 100 players always ruin my experience!

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Indeed. The Panzerjäger I (BR 1.3) is effective at BRs as high as 4.0 (could be even higher).

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yes it will lol a HE slinger will do better at ranks that have less armoured vehicles vs conventional heavy tank tier, although the last thing pzh2k needs is a buff, its at least an argument to move it up to where it belongs

Modern things should fight modern things. I hate having to fight things that are post WW2 in WW2 vehicles (looking at you Sweden!)

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traditionally i would’ve said that era balancing shouldn’t be a thing but in some cases it absolutely needs to be, we wouldn’t add a .50cal armed humvee to reserve tier simply because it would technically be balanced, same way we shouldn’t have a 2000s laser rangefinding and autoloading high-caliber SPG facing WW2 tank designs. oh wait…

same thing with air too, why a fucking vampire/venom can face a F-106 i will never know

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Actually since we’re talking about balancing could we move the Pr.1124 early and late up like 1 or 2 BRs? These things are god awful to go against, especially in a uptier!

is naval still alive? i want to start playing it

It takes like 2-5 minutes to get into a match and there’s usually like 4 people on each team. And the other team is usually 2 level 100 marshals vs. me (31) and my friend (48) so that kinda goes how you think it would. I honestly don’t know why it gets hated on. I feel like people just see other people hating on it and then they also start hating on it without even trying it first. I usually keep running into the same like 5 people in every match.

So it’s a cozy, family like atmosphere :) Is this what they mean when they say everyone knows everyone? Just like in small villages.

No it sucks. It like me, my friend and then everyone else is a Level 100

Don’t worry… in the next update, the sun will probably shine even brighter, the cannons will roar louder, and if you’re lucky, a few shiny new decals and ships will be added perfect for spending your money on :)

Just played a match. My team: me and 2 level 100s. Enemy team 3 level 100s in really good boats :( however we won

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What is with you people being so negative. Think of it as positives for balance.

Yes I’ve seen crazy things like Bt-7s and even a KV-1 Zis kill an abrams. It’s not un heard of.

But to say everything is balanced where it is currently is false.

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Sweden is about to have a really tough time if you want historical match making