Regina Margherita class Battleship

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Hello, I would like to suggest Regina Margherita class pre-dreadnoughts to join WT in the Italian Naval Forces Tech Tree. This class of ships along with Regina Elena class pre-dreadnoughts, San Giorgio and Pisa Armored Cruiser classes should work as transitioning ships between heavy cruisers and battleships in the Italian tech tree (barrlecruisers equivalents compared to other nations). This suggeston is a remake of the one from the old version of WT forum RN Regina Margherita class Battleship made by me in 2021.

General information:


Regina Margherita was a class of ships which intended to replace not very good, weak and slow Ammiraglio di Saint Bon class. Regina Margherita class consisted of only 2 ships: Regina Margherita and Benedetto Brin. The class sucraficed a bit of armor for better firepower and speed. Overall it was quite a succesful class of ships. Benedetto Brin was a naval engineer who developed the ship class along with Admiral Ruggero Alfredo Micheli, who slightly modified the project after the death of the engineer Benedetto Brin.

Benedetto Brin initially wanted to arm the ships with only two of the 12-inch guns and twelve 8 in (203 mm) guns, but after his death, Admiral Micheli altered the design to double the number of 12-inch guns, at the expense of eight of the medium-caliber pieces. Compared to Regina Margherita, Benedetto Brin had shorter funnels and higher vanes.

Both Regina Margherita and Benedetto Brin served in the active duty squadron for the first few years of their careers, and participated in the peacetime routine of fleet training. Regina Margherita frequently served as the fleet flagship before the completion of the new Regina Elena-class battleships. On 29 September 1911, Italy declared war on the Ottoman Empire, starting the Italo-Turkish War. The two ships saw action during the war in the 3rd Division in the 2nd Squadron. Benedetto Brin took part in the attack on Tripoli in October 1911, and both were involved in the campaign to seize Rhodes in the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

During WWI both the Italians and Austro-Hungarians adopted a cautious fleet policy in the confined waters of the Adriatic Sea, and so the two Regina Margherita-class battleships did not see action. Benedetto Brin served as a training ship based in Brindisi until she was destroyed in an internal explosion in the harbor on 27 September 1915 with heavy loss of life (454 men of the ship’s crew died in the explosion). Regina Margherita served for a little bit longer, until she struck a mine laid by the German submarine SM UC-14 on the night of 11 December 1916 (though sources are conflicting, MM website tells that: “The battleship Regina Margherita out of Valona, due to bad weather conditions, sank because it ended up in a field of Italian mines placed to defend the entrance to the port of the bay.”).

Regina Margherita:
Worksite: Arsenal of La Spezia
Setting up: 20/11/1898
Launch: 30/05/1901
Completion: 14/04/1904
Loss: 11/12/1916

Benedetto Brin:
Worksite: Castellammare di Stabia
Setting up: 30/01/1899
Launch: 07/11/1901
Completion: 01/09/1905
Loss: 27/09/1915



Normal: 13,427 Tons.
Full load: 14.574 Tonn.

Length: 138.6 (ft) - 130 (pp.) Mt.
Width: 23.8 mt.
Draft: 8.9 meters

Engine system:
28 boilers
2 alternative engines
Power: 20,000 HP

20 knots

1,000 tons of coal

10,000 miles at 10 knots

Vertical: 150 mm.
Horizontal: 80 mm.
Artillery: 220 mm.
*Tower: 150 mm.

4 pieces of 305/40 mm.
4 pieces of 203/45 mm
12 pieces of 152 mm.
20 pieces of 76 mm.
2 pieces of 47 mm.
2 pieces of 37 mm.
2 machine gunners*
4 torpedo tubes


*- 10mm /70 Maxim MGs

**- 797 according to MM website; 38+782 according to Aldo Fraccaroli’s book and from 812 to 900 according to wikipedia (Gardiner, Robert, ed. (1979). Conway’s All the World’s Fighting Ships: 1860–1905. Annapolis: Conway Maritime Press.)

General characteristics are identical for both ships of the class.

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Launching art:


  1. Regina Margherita-class battleship - Wikipedia

  2. Marina Militare official website


  1. “Ghosts of empires in color” - livegournal

  2. Italian Warships of World War 1 by Aldo Fraccaroli



This seems like a really interesting battleship, and I’d love to play it! +1

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+1 o7

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+1 absolute yes to these beautfiul chonky boats

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+1 as 5.3-7, depending on the fire-rate of the guns.

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It is interesting as a battleship and I would like to see it in the game.

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Pictures got broken, will update them later.

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The maximum rate of fire are associated with the potential reload without aiming and the minimums with the potential reload aiming at objectives in short/medium distances.

Rate of fire were around:

  • 305mm/40cs: 1.0-1.5 rpm.
  • 203mm/45cs: 2.0-4.0 rpm.
  • 152mm/45cs: 5.0-8.0 rpm.

Reload speeds may be lower if battles at greater distances are considered (loss of time due to aiming calculations), due to fatigue (good start, but…) or due to doctrine (sustaining firing rates).

In addition, I think the range of the guns (and their muzzle velocity) would be key on their balance.

Range of fire were around:

  • 305mm/40cs: 19 km (800 mps).
  • 203mm/45cs: 14 km (770 mps).
  • 152mm/40cs: 10 km (790 mps).

The range is not only conditioned by the muzzle velocity, but both are affected by the weight of the grenades and projectiles, of which the Italians knew how to enjoy a rich variety.

Weight were around:

  • 305mm/40cs: 385.6-417.0 kg.
  • 203mm/45cs: 95.3-116.2 kg.
  • 152mm/40cs: 45.4-48.6 kg.

And yes, the amplitude in the weight of the projectiles affected the rate of fire as well.


Sources: “Identification of the Parameters of Naval Artillery”, “Navypedia Fighting ships of World War One” & argentine documentation regarding Armstrong-Pozzuoli italian guns.