If it’s good enough for a 5.0 KDr it’s completely busted. As is the T58. I am no top 10 player, or competitive player, and I still manage a 4.22 KDr in the T58
I love how you admit it’s better, without admitting it.
Also the 85mm is weaker than the 90mm. That extra pen does matter, it means it’s more effective in uptiers. Also, given that it is a 5.7 it’s overkill for 4.7 tanks.
I hate to break it to you, but you’re dead wrong there.
Even at 500 meters there is wonky spots the 90mm can pen, it may be spaghetti code armor, but penning a 70° angle is quite odd, on a 100mm plate, wouldn’t you agree?
Also angling, there is a lot of weakspots, pretty much all you can count on, while angling is the side armor… and if your really uncertain just hit the commanders hatch and kill the turret crew easily.
In summary, the T1E1(90) is better than 6.0 heavies in all but armor. Yet, since it’s American, it continues to be under br’d just like the T58.
Anti Russian ideology is so funny here, Russian heavies are typically overtired, while USA ones are under.
S-38b 1.7 > 1.3: it’s literally just the reserve version but with 2 MG-34s which only really help against planes. Against other boats they’re just about useless.
One thing I don’t agree with is the T-92 to 7.3. Sure, it’s pretty small and can be hard to see, but it’s not that fast compared with most other light tanks. Also, it suffered on city maps as the small size doesn’t really help when ur trying to go down a narrow street. Also, the heat-fs shell is inconsistent at best, the post-pen isn’t that great
mostly a black hole, that can even eat 122mms or 128mms if hit in the transmission.
mobility on par with other light tanks
Out of the 7.0 light tanks, which there are few, it’s quite good. I never played it right when I played it, but I’ve seen a lot of people do really really good with it.
It does have some good pros, but it also needs good gameplay to get the most out of it, and it is absolute garbage when stock as it only has access to apcr.
Yeah, but since it isn’t that fast, it can’t do that much on city maps. You can’t pull off crazy flanks or anything, so I tend to just get destroyed on city maps. Idk, maybe I’m playing it wrong, I tend to use it with more of a medium tank style gameplay focusing on positioning
Meanwhile, your intial reasoning for pushing it up relied upon a stabilizer and gun you had imagined it had. When disproven, you then resorted to throwing up it’s other advantages against the 5.7s, while ignoring the weaknesses that make it balanced, and say “Well, it still needs to go up”.
If the rest of the advantages it had the whole time made it a 6.0 candidate, why didn’t you propose it should go to 6.3 or higher when you thought it had a stabilizer and a long 90mm equivalent gun?
I’m wracking my brain, trying to think of tanks that can resist the 85mm but cannot resist the 90mm. I listed the obvious ones above already, and it’s a very short list.
At best, the extra pen and angled performance means it’s more forgiving of bad shots, and it’s easier to punish tanks which misplay by over angling. Also, you can snipe with it a bit more, not that you should be in either tank.
You are seriously underangling the KV-220 in your screenshot. It has equal front and side armor on the hull, you want to be at or around 45 degrees to your enemy at all times.
Sidenote, I don’t know why the LFP is in green, as it’s ~220mm thick at it’s weakest
As for the turret, pointing at the tiny, pixel wide weakspot on the sides of the turret and pretending it’s a consistent shot is pretty laughable. Doubly so if the KV-220 is waggling the turret, which you should always be doing to make shots on the cupola harder.
“6.0 heavies” is a funny way of saying “The Tiger E”. Also the Black Prince, I guess, but that one is balanced so strangely it’s not a fair comparision.
But, in comparison to the Tiger E, it’s only marginally more mobile (Tiger E has 12.2 hp/t and a higher top speed), it has an arguably equal gun (trading a bit of pen and angled performance for overpressure potential), and it has effectively zero armor in comparison. Sure, the T1E1 is better in soft stats (gun handling, depression), but that’s basically it.
Perhaps a better comparison is the M36B2. You have the same gun, with more mobility, a larger ready rack and better gun handling. Both lack any useful armor, and so must be played as though they have none. The difference is the M36B2 gets a HEATFS round, which is very useful at 5.7, along with being much smaller and easier to hide, while the T1E1 gets a better reverse gear, more trollish armor (That cannot be relied upon, and thus only pays out when you make a mistake) and immunity to strafing. Also a 37mm of dubious usefulness.
Sounds to me like it’s broadly equivalent to another 5.7 vehicle in ability, and that it’s balanced at 5.7.
I understand it’s weaknesses vs pros. It’s 6.0 worthy, but not really 6.3
I haven’t changed my original argument, bar removing the “it has a stab” unlike most people, I actually am agreeable, and take fact, so when an undisputed fact arrives, and I check it to be true, I accept it.
Common enemies? Panthers, Jumbos (technically you can with the 85mm frontally but it is so hit or miss), some tds.
Not really. That angling works well.
And I’ve been killed in the turret side odd spot by the 90 a few times now…
But for the T1E1 idk I’ve lived a lot more stuff than I should’ve. But then also got 1 tapped by a puma… somehow…
I did kill a few light spgs and spaas earlier with the 37mm after they broke my main gun lol.
Why do I compare it to the Kv-220? I recently got it, and it doesn’t live up to the hype. It’s not as good as the T1E1 but is a higher br.