Check my profile in game. I have played almost all of these. But as I said, it’s a working list, and I’m taking peoples suggestions into account
Also, in terms of the Aubl 74 HVG, I am exposing a problem. The Rarden on the Fox does more damage than the Aubl, even though the Aubl fires APFSDS, and is larger by 30mm
It’s a 60mm cannon with a longer reload than any 105, or 120
eh, you keep changing your point. I’m done with you and this topic. Muting both.
Lmao because I have a point? Very childish.
You must consider many variables when decided a vehicles br.
Such as:
Like what vehicles it can face
It’s capabilities
It’s stats
It’s learning curve
@Forum Moderators
How can I make colored text for my original post? I see some people can do reds and greens. I just want to make it easily visible.
you cannot use red, its for moderators only
all other colours are available
How do you do it though?
How do you do it though?
use the painter icon next to change size of test button
or type it manually color=# means HEX code so for example
Dark Blue #0013ff
It does have nice thermals and a commander thermal sight but yes agree it’s not great.
Well, what are the actual cons vs pros?
And video of the speed? I don’t own it so I cannot test it.
I did add a change in the list for a reload buff.
Pros:
Mobility is still decent even being underpowered (about as fast as the FV4030/3 in battle conditions)
Good armor profile, UFP is ~370mm thick and the LFP is very small. Turret cheeks are comparable to Leopard 2A4.
DM63 is a good shell, since it’s classed as a long rod it spalls more
Because of the shape of the gun mantlet compared to the turret, hull down positions conceal a bit of the turret too. Kinda like the HSTV-L to a far lower degree.
Cons:
Its heavier than the 2A4 but has a weaker engine, and the acceleration is pretty bad.
The armor, while good, is still pretty easily penned by most things. DM13, DM23, DM33 105 all go through even the strongest part of the tank
No machine gun
Mediocre horizontal traverse
Long reload
Well I can definitely see a reload buff being good, I’m not sure decreasing its br is necessary. It has to be played in the right scenarios: hull down.
As a good example, the Krisentema is an very situational vehicle.
The thing is Britain already has a far better hull down sniper at the same BR: the Chally Mk 2. So the only appeal to play it would be to have a pseudo Leopard 2 since you don’t need a sniper. Which it fails at.
But I agree about the BR change not really being necessary, but the reload definitely is. Hell, it could go to 5.0 seconds to bring it in line with the Abrams and to justify the higher BR than the currently better Leopard 2AV
Unfortunately it also has 2 things dm63 and legacy stats from when it was dropped
It has a better round and thermals and unfortunately has legacy stats.
Its fine at 10.3 imo but ive not used it much as you can see on my stats.
I had to make a 10.3 lineup to accomodatw it
Any other tanks to update on this list?
still bad change
Still bad without decompression
Bad take, reload kills this.
No need for such a massive uptier
No sense, its not better than the others.
ATGM vehicles are not strong. No sense.
Not good enough for 9.0, decompression needed
Makes no sense, lacks tech and weapons to be used at this BR. I-TOW can’t even penetrate kontakt 1 iirc which is half of what you face
Didnt see a downtier for any abrams so no
No need
No need, atgm vehicles aren’t good
no need
no need
ATGM vehicles aren’t good 3x
No need
No need
M26 should be 6.3 instead(should not face 7.7 stuff)
jumbo 76 6.0(rival tiger E)
Tiger II P 6.3(quite literally a worse armor Tiger II H frontally)
M247 down 8.7(if the PGZ09 can be 8.3 then this can go 8.7)
T26E5 should not be 7.0
T30 should not be 7.3
T29 shouldnt face 8.3 stuff
Just uptier Pgz, AAs in this BR range are stupidly strong anyway
Can you try to be amicable for once?
Yes I agree the atgm carrier post nerf are all bad, every single one. But I downtiered one and you copy pasted what you said, because you aren’t brining valid ideas to the table.
Beglit is far stronger than you let on.
Funny how the abrams needs a downtier, and you made that a stark point. WHY does an abrams need a downtier? They’re good tanks.
I agree. Did you know the M247 can kill a lot of mbts frontally through optics?
