Hard to kill and invulnerable unless you destroy the it’s gun, both tracks, kill everyone supporting him while continuously destroying his gun and drive around him isn’t the same thing.
IS-4M definitely isn’t amazing, but it’s not itself that is a problem, but rather insane compression around early cold war BR areas
There hasn’t been “insane compression” since 2022.
You should know that heavy tanks of all things are by far the most prone to being affected by BR compression.
IS-4M is good in a downtier, maybe decent even up to 8.0 uptier. But anywhere above that it’s just a driving pile of RP and SL for the enemy
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There is at maximum 4 top-BR tanks on any enemy team.
At least 75% of the time you’re facing 7.7s and 7.7s with slightly better rounds [8.0s] since 8.3 doesn’t exist as lineups.
Don’t fight 8.7s alone, don’t put yourself in that situation.
You should add your comment to this list it takes into account many vehicles
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I mean the US has a amazing 8.3 lineup.
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Russia has a pretty good 8.0 / 8.3 lineup too. The T10M is right fun, with two 14.5mm Heavy MGs and that badass 122mm cannon, love the apds on it.
then the T55A while not great is a decent all round tank to have, backed up with an object 906, whatever cas you fancy and the shilka
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How do you mean?
I mean the compression still seems pretty bad as well as the gaps in coverage. Games got a lot of issues of varying type.
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We should definitely also get a reload buff for it
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No IS-4M is op as hell in 7.7 giving him HEAT-FS will be idiotic at this BR
Don’t compare Conqueror to Russian Bias - Conqueror is Usless moste the time because of APDS moronic Shatter not to mention 0 spalling post pene dmg with 500 pene don’t do nothing
M103 on other hand is heavy that can be penetrated from all sides and front , as for all Western tanks weak spots are Huge.
The IS-4M is a 7.0-grade vehicle, and has been ever since the combination of HEATFS, excessively strong APDS, and particularly the flood of derp HE launchers were added to the game en masse. The IS-3 is 6.7 material for similar reasons.
The only things keeping it up where it is are the facts that all the rounds which should penetrate it currently do little to no postpen damage, allowing it to eat shots and fire back when it realistically should perish. Thus the IS-4M suffers by having its armor be deadweight and its barrel shot out when by a miracle not encountering something that renders its armor deadweight, and the opponents fighting it suffer from horrid postpen damage and taking forever to kill it, often having kills stolen or his teammate immolating you before you can finish him.
And you wonder why I have dared suggest restoratively buffing all the currently-neutered ammo types? So heavies like this one lose their “fake survivability” and fall in BR naturally. Pair that with making cannon barrels invincible intentionally, given those clip through objects and terrain already, so that “if you can’t pen it, just shoot the gun” no longer exists, and suddenly the IS-4M finally has a good niche. If you want to frontally kill it, bring an un-nerfed artillery gun that doesn’t care how much armor it has.
New shells wouldn’t help the IS-4M at all. Waiting 22s just for your APDS to shatter would be worse than what we have now. Like all 122mm armed tanks the IS-4M needs a massive reload buff to survive the insane uptiers without being op in a downtier. Currently it’s a worse vehicle than the T32E1, M103, IS-6 or Conqueror which also are in a rough spot at the moment and need a reload buff.
the problem is hyper compression you have a uptier where you face 8.7-8.0 MBT with APDSFS/STAB and down tier where you face a ww2 T26E5 which cant pen you frontally its very awesome match making
what they need to do is decompression but they would loose money so they would never do that cause if the game was balanced no one would need premiums
Those 7.7s don’t just get bullied in uptiers they face 400+mm HEAT and howitzers in full downtiers too. Even the T26E5 with its weak cannon can deal with an IS-4M or stall it for long enough until anything with a good cannon or HEAT arrives.
The 7.7 still need to aim for weakspots on heavy tanks a full BR lower which is a thing almost exclusive to them. Look at how much a Tiger 2, T26E5 or T34 can bully a Jumbo, Tiger 1 or IS-1. Take a guess what the T14, Churchill Mk7 or KV-1 are able to do to a Jumbo, Tiger 1 or IS-1. These slow reloading 7.7s are the only heavies in the game that struggle even when they don’t face any enemies of a higher BR and if they do they’re totally helpless. It’s not just the gameplay at higher BRs because the IS-7, Object 279 and T58 are all extremely broken at their BR and allowed to bully the lobby in downtiers but the 7.7s are not.
Long reload tanks simply aren’t meta and no amount of armor can save them. The amount of HEAT cars and howitzer slop will only increase as time goes on so unless they get a their reload time cut down a lot they will stay obsolete.
this is like saying a 75mm jumbo can deal with tiger 2 since the T26E5 is basically the 6.7 equivalent
can it technically pen the IS4M ? yeah technically doesnt make it fair
or his teamate shows up and barrels you or just kills you or tracks you
It’s not. The T26E5 has no trouble bouncing the 122mm while the Jumbo can’t tank the long 88. The T26E5 also shoots almost 3x as fast as the IS-4M, the Jumbo only shoots 1,5x faster than the Tiger 2.
Of course it’s not fair and it shouldn’t be. If it was fair there wouldn’t be a 1.0BR gap between the two vehicles.
You either didn’t read my comment at all or you missed the point completely.