Proposed Churchill nerf is ridiculous

fortunately balancing based on stats means that the average ability of someone in that vehicle is what is taken into account. and youll never guess what the biggest determining factor in the ability of an average player in any given vehicle is…

the characteristics of the vehicle.

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Churchill VII at 4.7 was always on borrowed time APHE or no. The Crocodile has been hovering around 60% winrate, with decent SL and KD as well for the last 6 months.

Ever since May 2025 the Crocodile has been in the top 3 vehicles at 4.7 in winrate consistently, many of those it has been 1st.

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I firmly believe that Cromwell now is best medium tank of the rank. Its super fast and with that fast reload and aphe it just rocks.

My average k/d has basically doubled since APHE.

I had just over 2k/d with AP. My matches after the APHE are over 4k/d

The issue is the opposent are panicking when they’re facing the Churchill and try to snap like the Mk.3 unless shooting the weakspot. This situation let us to counter-attack and the M61 isn’t giving a second chance.

Good olayers using Chi-to, Kv-1 and T-34 are able to knockout the Churchill’s turret and of course, SPG with HE rounds or the 152 / 128 gun can one shot easily the Churchill in frontal

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Crocodile is an event vehicle of course its win rate is going to be higher. It’s arguably just straight up worse than the regular VII because of the trailer but only good players are using it.

I’m consistently getting goobed frontally by the influx of Japanese tanks when I’m playing the VII. Longways through the tracks is a real and consistent weakspot that a lot of tanks can take advantage of. KV-1s (especially the up armored ones) are very favored because of how annoying thin barrels are to shoot when the turret is on the move and how annoying most of them are to shoot frontally. M44s (and to a lesser extent M55s(oh boy I love letting my APHE fuze!!)) completely own it and then there’s the breda players. The annoyingly good breda players. They just win. Always. Because it’s kind of psychotic to preload HE. The VII has a lot of counterplay that people just aren’t using because it’s effectively a brand new vehicle with how often it’s being seen compared to before.

Yeah, and it being an event doesn’t matter. I’m saying its stats are the reason why the Mk VII is going up.

being event exclusive absolutely matters for stats what are you talking about

If you’re somehow excusing overperforming stats simply because it’s a premium. I don’t know what to tell you. There’s no logic there at all.

I’m excusing these overperforming stats because it’s been less than a month since the update. Of course the stats are going to look ridiculous there was a solid 2 weeks where half of the 4.7 games were Churchill VIIs. Wait like 3 months and THEN the stats can actually be taken into account without other variables. Also the Crocodile is objectively worse than the normal VII and is doing better stats wise, I wonder why… it being an event vehicle definitely isn’t relevant.

You clearly didn’t read a single word in my post then.

This isn’t a recent thing.

I usually try to avoid getting shot in general.

Unless the map forces a direct head to head, im pulling small flanks and trying to hit from their sides.

The slight hp/ton difference makes it “objectively worse”?

Same gun, same armor, same speed. Gives up a bit of hp/ton for a flamethrower that can damage open-topped vehicles. How you figure it is worse?

uncapped AP might not be able to go throught the roof consistently

that thing barely has armor




(500 meters btw) those shot by chi nu 2 or Chi-to

What I said was consistently if you listened
“uncapped AP might not be able to go throught the roof consistently”

See how most of the roof is red? The only shot being at the very smallest part a very thin gap you can hit

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your angling wrong

First screen-shot the area you are targeting is so minute that hitting it under battle conditions will be a struggle - not nearly the same as theoretical targeting in protection analysis.

Roof shot at 74 degrees will deflect quite often.

Still got destroyed by those shots in game, let me grumpy at the moment. Same thing being concentrated on enemies on a point defense and a savage Zis-30 taking the opportunity to shot the sides.

Screaming intensifes