Its stats beg to differ.
If your prediction is true, it’ll go down in BR. If your prediction isn’t true, it can stay at its new BR. Easy peasy.
And THIS is why france is overtiered. Balancing on stats alone does not work in the long run
explain to me what the VII is supposed to do to a panther
Even if you somehow managed to hit a barrel with such a rock thrower gun, it’d repair before you could get to it’s side
Let it be known that there IS a shot trap you can try for on the earlier panthers but the place you have to hit on the mantlet is so insanely precise that you’re never going to actually get it in a real game when accounting for network delay. And that goes away with the later turrets. VKs and Panthers own you so hard it’s not even funny, but sure let’s put the VII to 5.0 and make them see it ALL THE TIME!
You know it’s bad when the only way to destroy the enemy is to purposely bounce your shells. Even more so considering they are faster and cut right through you everywhere
It shouldnt go up any way, most vehicles that perform like it already had aphe and are faster with more consistent armor models.
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Tank with APHE is > Tank without APHE.
How you figure a 1-step increase is out of line?
Cause it was kinda bum before aphe and aphe brings it to “may require critical thinking to defeat” level. It’s win rate is also gets carried by the rest of English 4.7 being peak
because it’s going to be seeing things that it, quite literally, cannot do a thing to frontally way more often. It’s already seeing VKs a lot and Panther Fs a decent amount, and now it’s going to be able to see Panther Ds, as well as seeing VKs all the time and Panther Fs a lot.
So does the Jumbo 75. At least now the Churchill can nuke a Tiger 1 H via the cupola.
If the Churchill is already seeing Panther Fs - that’s on the player for putting it in a 5.0 lineup.
And blame matchmaker for the 3-step spread - should be two, MAX.
Not Panther F, that’s my mistake. I meant Panther D, but it’s not like the dynamic changes. Same matchup.
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75mm of Panzer IV literally requires to aim to pen it side-wise and actually do something. 3.7-4.0 sherman`s cannon has like two spots to pen it sidewise, and likely deal not enough damage to disable it. And now that machine of death has APHEs. It being 4.7 while having worst gun ingame was fair but not now.
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Chaffees and Shermen have the same gun performance and Chaffees own the VII so hard it’s not even funny. This is just cope. Churchills are not hard to kill in the slightest, you are just coping. The VII having uber amounts of frontal armor does not change this fact. Also! If you barrel a churchill it will not be able to escape.
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i called this out when they where suggesting giveing it APHE that it would get moved up in br and would happen quickly
they called me crazy and pulled out its poor kd for it because AP solid shot
i feel very vindicated
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ok, now take its win rate 2 months from now
oh wait you can’t use that data because it’s gonna be in 5.0
i predicted it would be OP with aphe i was right
edit i miss spoke and edited this
It’s not overpowered. The stats as shown are mainly new toy syndrome. This is always going to wear off and it’s already happening. You’re getting way more uptiers in the thing than you were when the update dropped and less people are playing it. It’s one of the most map dependent tanks in the entire game and the 75 is still a mid gun even with APHE. The KV-1E is genuinely just a better tank despite the gun being worse because it’s more mobile and has armor that is annoying to shoot at from all angles (fun fact, the 75 literally cannot do anything to it frontally).
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first off less armor can be penned in multiple spots by the german and american 76 MM and 75mm KV1E has a weaker gun and less pen 87mm and less frontal protection and side you literally can pen it with a sherman 75 in more places than you can with the churchill
the churchill while less mobile if played well can be basically unkillable with 156MM of armor you can stop pretty much 90% of 4.7 rounds of the BR. And if angled its better than KV1E ive literally only died in the thing recently to uptiers or straight BS shots while the KV1E can be dispatched by a panzer IV H if he reacts first
if KV1E is considered OP at 4.3 with its KIT the better armored more powerful gun Churchill is too yeah its slow but so is the maus and its a top 5 7.7 tank due to its potent gun and strong armor making it dam near unkillable in a downtier without heat even actual 7.7 heavys like the IS4M and the T32E1 cant kill it
yeah you can shoot his barrel as well in a sherman 75 M4 at 3.7 but he can shoot many places on you and kill frontally with ease
uum, duh, how cool is that? Churchill got its new munition straight from them, so basically same gun with basically same munition means basically same performance? You know who also has the same gun performance and does well? Jumbo.
bro. You must be newbie to believe that stupidity.
tf u mean “own him so hard”. They have trouble penning it 90* not even talking about some angle. Even 0 meters away its basically 5* that decide the SIDE PEN.
“if you shoot enemy, they die”. Duh. You know what happends with Chaffee when he meets CHurchill?
