Premium F-2A ADTW Falling Behind at Its BR

Good job cherry picking the last few months with noobs who just bought it with no skill, compared to its lifetime which looks way better.

Keep in mind anything close to a 1 KDR in this game is considered above average to good performance.

The full range of this 13.0 BR vehicle KDR spans from 1.26 to the lowest of .81 as of right now, it’s a good medium, even with prem noobs flying it.

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Due to the stupid compression at the moment, a lot of aircraft at 13.0 arent doing well, but objectively the F2A ADTW is actually very well equipped. What is needed is a major decompression, but buffing or lowering the BR of the F2A ADTW isnt possible, and quite frankly, stupid to do prior to a decompression

(at 12.7 you still have aircraft like the Netz, which is weaker in every regard and doesnt even get IRCCM nor am I aware of any buff short of AAM-4s which would immediately bump it up to 13.7)

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No, the Su-30’s that are currently at 13.3 with similar kit are already too good…

It would be better than all the 13.3 F16’s so no it would go to 13.7

With the introduction of Rank XI, wouldnt mind it went up BR to 13.7 along with other Fox-3 premiums.

100 players,… you’re telling me that 100 players are enough to make a good result?

also as always, many (of course not all) premium vehicule users are newbies experiencing jet aircrafts for the 1st or 2nd time in their WT life, expecting to grind the Techtree faster than ever.

the results are always underpar similar aircrafts of Free TechTree

when i check to every similar F-5’s of the game (as exemple to show how premium/normal TT matter in results), all 10.7 BR F-5’s get results as follows:
US F-5A (Event) - 0.9KD - 49.6% WR
US F-5C (premium) - 0.93 KD - 50% WR

Chinese F-5A - 1.4KD - 50.6% WR
Thaï F-5A - 1.43KD - 54.8% WR

with different weapons (still 10.7 somehow), premium players are better (the weapon does it all for them)
Belgian NF-5A (premium) - 1.42KD - 57% WR (with AIM-9P/N)

for myself, i have only played the Thaï F-5A, and i’m sitting on 4.52 KD and 68% WinRate.

with all those informations in mind - premium players are mostly less skilled than non-premium users.

different reasons to it, as they (the players):
1- don’t know how to act in dogfight → lose 95% fights → end up base bombing (usual)
2- don’t know that weapons have limitations → fires in “the void” → weaponless gets killed (rarer, and limited to a few games)
3- don’t have macro-awareness of a fight → gets third-partied 70% of the time (usual)
4- don’t know how to manage energy in a dogfight → lose 60% fights so don’t got good results (usual)
5- don’t know how to teamplay a 2vs2 or more → lose 75% team fights (usual)
6- don’t know strengths and weakness of their own/ennemy aircrafts → lose 70% fights (usual)
ect. ,… ect. ,…

so, really, you can’t compare Premium/Normal aircrafts results, let alone do it over 100 ratings.

yes we’re sure:

N°1 reason:
you’ve cherrypicked the December month, yet the aircraft was standing on a 0.95 average KD on previous months.

the “all the time” stats given by @Zyranovos shows that too.

N°2 reason - premium/squadron results are always underpar normal TT results, because of what i’ve explainned on the post above (with 10.7 F-5’s comparative).

N°3 reason - the F-2A ADTW is over 50% of playerbase average kill/spawn (and i’ve put the all the time result of some other aircrafts):

we can see here, that the F/A-18C (considered one the best premium at the moment) is below F-2A ADTW, while the F-2A ADTW is over the Median (Median is 0.656 / F-2A ADTW is 0.75)
similarly the Su-33 is not having the same results despite the number of missiles it can carry
the F-14B/MiG-29G and F-16AJ are non-premium aircrafts and results shows a better handling of those aircraft by players.

F-2A (13.7) have been added to explain why the F-2A ADTW (sharing the exact same flight model) shouldn’t have a lot of trouble.

the reason of the results is the playerbase (F-5’s argument of previous post)
so in fact :
F-2A ADTW DOES NOT SUFFER

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Take the Sparrow Ps from behind the paywall and add them to the F2 and f15as.

Or fix whatever makes sparrows do sparrow things that strangly dont ever happen using 27s

take the AIM-7P to it’s right place first of all:

F/A-18C early with AIM-7P sits at 12.7 BR (F-4EJ Kai is 12.3, with AIM-7F not M - slight difference is still a difference)
it should be 13.0

F/A-18A sits at 12.3 when the F-16ADF was 12.7 before the introduction of AIM-120A. (F-16AJ is also 12.7 BR today)
it should be 12.7

the game is overcompressed : that’s facts
the premium playerbase also is getting results underpar the true capacity of an aircraft is also true:

with 9Ms, sure. without them, not with current compression issues.

Compression for sure but doesnt stop vics getting better stuff to help the cope.

F14 12.7 - 9Ls
F14- 13.0- 9Ms
F15a sparrow P
F2 - sparrow P
F16 AJ sparrow P
Grippy 13.0 sparrow M/ P
F18 premium- moved to 13.0.with 9Ms.
F16 netz give extra flares like MOD or move to 12.3

Would help balance and justtify their BRs a little better

I mean seeing as both swiss and canadian hornets are rocking the 7P which was US Navy missile, theres practically no reason to not add 7Ps to more aircraft; however the issue that it was Navy missile remains.

Could Airforce aircraft carry it? I mean its a sparrow, theres little to no reason why aircraft capable of carrying sparrow couldnt carry it; but it has datalink and im not sure radar without neccesary upgrades would be able to make use of said datalink (or in layman terms “talk to the missile without knowing the language and phone number”).

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is the XAAM-4 identical to the serial version?

When the ruski 11.7 missile- r24 is better and now the mig25s SAHRs too, than all sparrows (unsure about P as paywalled so not used it) something isnt right

its also on the TT late hornets but no one is gonna use Sparrow against MICA.

anyway, theyre very good. the IOG and DL combo fixes the sparrow biggest issue, that being reliability.

outside of someone straight up dodging or chaffing your missile, they always hit. even in multipath if launched from good angle. not once i had my 7P go on its own happy little adventure instead of following target.

I knew the Ps must be alot better as they slap me all the time.

Game is on another level… sparrows dont work… heres some that do…£80 plz… no other jet can have them though.

only good top sparrow being paywalled is so funny

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then you’re allowing the current kind of compression,…

instead of forcing Gaijin to went up,… you allow them to stay with current problems.

that’s my only problem with your answer toward the quoted part.

the problem is how that stuff was rated!

as i said earlier,… F/A-18C and F/A-18A never were stuff for current BR they have,… and so with Su-30SM2 for another exemple.

rating weaponnary and introduction BR is done by Gaijin,… but what they’ve done recently is pushing better weapons at lower BR, for no reason.
which create a bigger issue of compression.

that issue will not be lifted with a simple decompression,… but a complete rework of how BR are made.

Yeah ita kinda sad, id love to see it on TT plane, something like F-4S late

Hey man, once the 13.0 area decompresses and theres no longer 29G on same BR as Su-27 and Su-33 i will be the first one to suggest premium hornets to go up.