Vehicle upgrades and weapons, without anything else, are always shaky connection at best, and one that gets brought up regularly, and i will never understand why people do that.
TAM 2IP uses israeli addon armor, and TAM 2C uses israeli FCS. None of them are in israeli tree.
Vilkas, Cv90 Mk IV, the last french Tiger helicopter, the last italian Mangusta helicopter all use Spikes. They are not in israeli tree.
If israel sold Merkavas to India, or India was producing them under license, then it would be another matter entirely, but as it stands, just having israeli weapons does not justify india sub-tree in israel.
but hey.
its better than that one bloke suggesting india being subtree of china because of BRICS.
Having made it a subtree was a mistake. They should’ve just made each vehicle go to its country of origin (Bison to Russia, Vijayanta to UK, etc) since India buys from everyone but is not unique enough to warrant its own tree, but now we have to worry about the UK getting an SU-30MKI…
imma be honest, india doesnt have enough unique aircraft (that are non C&P) to have its own separate tree, from a quick search there is like 5/6 unique aircraft that india could get (excluding c&p) so no, those aircraft would be better to be in the british TT
Agreed. Remove India, or at the very least anything not purely domestic, and give Britain an Australia+New Zealand or Canada subtree (but not both! That’s way too much!)
India comes with multiple issues about its current implementation, the majority of which come from the fact that the sub-tree system from day 1 was a failure.
Heck, there is so little space in the UK tree at areas they can’t even get stuff they used (ex., Canadair Sabre F.4: The RAFs Best Aircraft Was ... Canadian?, which was built to UK specs and wouldn’t have existed with them ordering it). So the so all three nations need to fight each other for the limited space for their stuff due to the 5-line limit.
Also, between domestic, modified and licensed-built(note all count as unique), all the major commonwealth nations (India, UK, ZA, Canada & ANZACs) need at least 3 lines each for their stuff.
So I’d rather a new TT with a bit more C&P but room for unique stuff as TT rather than a ST with nothing but C&P.
I’d be fine with India staying a sub-tree(and more sub-trees) only if a rework happened, like ex. Subtree Rework - Nation Folders