well, you can take your AB the game mode for casuals outta here this is not topic about AB sure they can have small map and CQC cluster F in there AB are meant to be that way anyway but put the same logic away from RB and SB the mode people choose to enjoy realistic and simulator fight
and there you goes at add RB/SB to the topic name happy now?
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It literally is. It’s posted in General Discussion, not RB.
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“they can have small map and CQC cluster F in there” – but it’s objectively not a mindless “cluster F” if I can get a 24 kill game doing it. Mindless cluster F’s would have no skill involved and thus by definition nobody would ever get significantly above like 1-1.5 KD doing it.
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Why’d you ignore the first question about Oddbawz in HIGH TIER RB?
Probably because you can’t have both RB/SB selected.
I might be wrong but i would imagine that this is the idea.
They changed the title literally like 3 minutes ago to add that at the end, lol
Well then that is kind of toxic.
Pulling him here not gonna make you look better Oddbawz is good at tanks yeah but still there some aspect that i superior to him did he ever show his video about playing fighters or Helicopter?
yeah, i changed is because i didn’t expected that AB guy gonna come here ramble about problem that for RB players
You make a post in a general forum section and don’t expect people from different game modes to talk about something in a place made for talking… come on
?? The point was not “Oddbawz is better than U”, get over yourself. The point was Oddbawz gets nukes doing CQC specifically, in Rb at top tier.
So obviously, CQC is not “mindless W holding lol no skill clownery lolol not what real men with skill do lol”
CQC is, objectively, a skill you can get very good at, just like flanking. As he has done and he has proven can be done.
So there is no reason to put flanking on a pedestal over CQC, when both have similar skill ceilings. no reason to prioritize one over the other in map design, no reason to have one available 100% of the time and another only around sometimes, etc.
Well i admit that part is my fault i accepted it because RB is the one most people playing here and the popular mode so i forget about AB
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Interesting part is the poll asks gaijin to revert the changes. Last time something was reverted was because the whole community blew up
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it also needs to put into suggestion too if enough vote
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RB is more popular on the forum (which has an extremely non-standard population of people with thousands of battles). But ground RB is almost 4x less popular than ground AB among all players How popular are the various modes? - General Discussion - War Thunder - Official Forum according the raw replay server data
That said, they can of course make different maps if they want for different modes. So there’s no reason the two HAVE to be considered together, and choosing to talk only about one mode is still fine. Refer back to: Oddbawz etc. above, which IS about RB, not AB.
No map is. When too many people flank, flanking kinda dies because the purpose of flanking (imo) is to not meet enemies head on.
False. A good map has both. New map changes are eliminating flanking for no reason.
Then give nations tans that allow them to play in a non flanking playstyle. You try playing a lorraine40t against T55s/M60s/other stabilized tanks.
Choosing isn’t bad. In a game as dynamic as war thunder, with as many tanks as there is, certain tanks favour different playstyles. Doing the same thing over and over isn’t lazy if it helps your team, and makes you a better player. You are failing to mention that different tanks play differently.
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I gave clear arguments why I think it is in this case. You keep just ignoring them and saying “nuh uh! it isn’t!” without really seriously engaging at all. I’ll never understand why some people hang out on discussion forums who hate actually having discussions.
Okay you did say this one vague thing:
You are failing to mention that different tanks play differently.
But you don’t have to take any specific tank out in any match, so how is it relevant. You have a lineup. You have like 8-11 options to choose from best for the situation. This isn’t air RB. If we were in a world where a full 1/3 of maps were ones with flanking 1/3 were CQC only, 1/3 were sniping only, then you should bring a lineup with a couple snipers, a couple brawlers, a couple flankers…
In the rare few cases where a nation literally only has one style they can possibly do for a whole lineup at a popular BR, then the change in maps will make them perform worse, and they’ll go down in BR automatically by algorithm until they’re fine again soon. It’s not a big deal even then. But this is pretty rare. Gaijin did a decent job maintaining lines of TDs, mediums, heavies, MBTs, IFVs, SPAAs, lights, etc. all around tech trees.
Two of the examples in the OP of this very thread removed large sections of CQC… as did southern hurtgen forest only map (another recent one). Three recent changes cutting out large CQC sections.
The changes REALLY are not even particularly biased against flanking specifically. You guys are hypersensitive to flanking and just only noticing that part, because YOU’RE biased toward flanking.
this i can agree with because people choose RB like to play realistic battle to experience Realistic tanks battle and sim for hardcore realism players that need to simulate the real tanks combat ofc same logic of Arcade shouldn’t be apply on these two mode because of what it name stand for
The thing that changes are against is using Your brain.
Gaijin wants us to constantly push and have quick battles as it will mark all shortcomings of the game.
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He’s an AB player which i don’t mind keeping small map close combat fight there because it was AB for
Cool, so… why’d you ignore the part about Oddbawz in HIGH TIER RB? The part where he gets nukes in CQC only gameplay in the exact BR and mode you wanted to talk about, and directly disproves your claims that:
high tier CQC are dumb af
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you talk like CQC [is] very skillful when in reality it nothing more than running around like an idiots
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If it was not skillful, and was only random chickens running around with their heads cut off, then NOBODY, not Oddbawz, not anyone you can find on a simple replay server search for advance to the rhine, NOBODY, would ever get nukes in CQC. Yet they do… in high tier RB… curious, yes?