If someone shot me down out of incompetence (missile launch or TK in SIM) or greed (shooting though me to kill steal the plane I’m dealing with) I’m not accepting.
Genuine accidents like if I was in a weird spot someone can’t really predict or surrounded by enemies and they dropped a bomb and cleaned house I’ll accept, was worth the sacrifice.
Console players already have to utilize Dr. Strange levels of dexterity with how many multi-stacked three to four button combinations we need to strike just to cycle radar.
Your odds of an accepted apology from a console user when your Aim9 says nah is very slim only because trying to squeeze in that keybind somehow is just left behind, it’ll find a way to interfere elsewhere. There’s gotta be a better way to forgive.
Last time i forgave someone I lost AoA restrictions, ripped my wings off and body checked a tree. I don’t trust like that.
They can buy a keyboard. My contribution to the thread will be a few funny teamkills that happened to me:
You be the judge of if you would forgive these or not.
I never accept apology, someone who can spawn CAS can use braincells and not tk a teammate. The worst scenarios is when they intentionally push you in order to get a kill that doesn’t count as a TK. Either way, ARB it will happen in GRB if it’s not artillery it was careless. I even TKd myself with artillery and reported myself for a ban.
Well simulator battles are made to be the most realistic possible, so allies and enemies are not marked on the map nor in your POV which is obviously what irl tankers see. And, allies can TK because, irl tankers could technically “TK” their teammates.
NOTE: I am not saying that I support the fact that Gaijin added TK in sim battles nor that I don’t support this
yo it was 13 sec after the game has started he did it on purpose, TK in the middle of the game is sometimes understandable but not when you are on your spawn
If it’s after 13 seconds of spawn then he prob did it intentionally
I was just explaining why from my opinion Gaijin added TK in sim battles
TK is good in sim because its realistic, i am complaining about the teammates i get because they are the problem not the mechanic
Yeah, I do agree with this
I don’t accept TK apologies for anyone who uses ARH missiles or IR missiles at high BR. You should have sufficient experience to understand at that BR you cannot just launch a missile and hope it sorts itself out or your teammate defeats it if it does swap tracking.
Teamkills above 11.7 are basically always intentional or from gross negligence and there is no apologizing for either of those. Teamkillers made a stupid decision and have to live with the consequences.
You can also get tk’d in GRB by your teammate in a plane shooting your roof, not that i killed a teammate in an SPAA doing that
If it’s a new guy to sim, or it’s a furball and I’m begging for help and I get clipped?
I forgive.
If it’s someone who had plenty of time to IFF me and there’s no time urgency and still shoots me? Nope.
I’ve been seeing an increase in number or intentional TK (iTK) lately. And this usually happens very often:
Just today I’ve been killed intentionally twice in Air RB! Once the guy who bombed already a base, turned around and then back after me and locked a missile on me. He said it was because some other guy “pointed” to that base. WTF?
Just now another guy was hunted by it’s team’s OSA-AK in Ground RB, and happened to me so many times the same.
I suggest that the same as Gaijin implemented “Forgive”, to give an option to “Punish” by destroying the that vehicle.
I find it fair that if the player is using the SPAA to do kill team members, then is no need for that vehicle in the battle. I think this is perfectly acceptable in GRB.
At 2 TK player gets kicked anyway, but that i believe is too much damage done to the team already.
In short, this. But we need to be given a way to actively deny the apology, otherwise it’ll be hanging in the background until you press T even if the prompt goes away.
Just this week I was TK’d on purpose by a salty teammate in a SPAA, I’m assuming because I “stole their kill” or something and minutes later I tried to communicate with my team using the radio commands and the game decided that I am now accepting their apology.
To be fair, sometimes teammates just come outta nowhere. I’ve had situations, mostly at 8.3-9.3, where I launch a Fox-2 at an enemy plane, just for a (previously off screen) supersonic teammate to swoop in and steal the IR lock.
It’s pretty rare, but it’s not always the fault of the launcher.
If I was doing something stupid, and rushing, I’ll take the apology, but if I’m somewhere sitting and get artied by a friendly, then I’ll not be so inclined.
If the apology is real, and the mistake possibly happened, then I weigh that up. I commonly accept anyway, but more-so when it is a questionable intent.
There does need to be more work done on the accept/offer side as it’s not as ‘visible’ as it should be, or it disappears often before you have the chance as such.
