My issue isn’t the translator. They are understandable and that’s all that matters. I admit that I have made fun of it a bit and I shouldn’t have done that. I apologize for that. However, what I’m trying to explain is that their requests and ideas are fundamentally not real and based on false premises. I’m talking about this stuff because I and nearly every other person in this thread have explained that this is not happening and that is not how War Thunder works, but they have straight up refused to listen:
And this stuff which is straight up not what I said:
And the second of those 2 statements is blatantly misrepresenting what I said because it is a reply to this:
I mean the main difference between a hypothesis/theory and reality is just the ability to prove it. My favorite example is Dark Matter. There is no scientific prove of it, but it looks like that there is a common scientific consensus that it might exist, mainly as it fills gaps between other theories and actually proven facts.
So without having actual insight in all MM functionalities you can’t be 100% sure about such claims - and if such things would actually exist you would not be able to detect and prove it - otherwise they would make no sense.
Therefore claims that such things as addressed here (or another famous topic - Russian bias) are not existing look comprehensible, but they are just based on assumptions and official communication - and not on actual data.
Imagine you would have worked in 2013 for VW and somebody had asked you about a defeat device in your diesel engines…
True, but the logic for why they would do this fundamentally makes no sense and there is no evidence whatsoever to support what is a conspiracy theory.
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Rule 30 of the Internet, all girls are just guys. girls do not exist on the internet. Oh, and these are real rules.
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Of course, it was 4chan. The last crazy/but free place on the internet where anarchy lives.
You might consider to invest some time reading the linked MM thread.
It is actually proven and well researched that the right mix of success and drawbacks increases the player commitment. The main goal of game developers is to keep the player in the flow zone.
So implementing artificial success and drawbacks makes sense, especially for f2p games: If the player is too good he might get too early to his personal goal and might not be encouraged to spend (further) money, same the other way around.
As wt has a strong grinding aspect combined with a high number of players, whilst the game play itself is far away from being rocket science - balancing players and their progress by own team & enemy team composition and up- or downtiers via certain “features” within the MM is basically the only way to keep players in the flow zone.
That this system has some major flaws is obvious.
You see this in small matches/lobbies: On paper the skill distribution within both teams looks often quite similar/identical, but the MM does not consider where (in which mode) the skill is rooted - so you see often a team with highly experienced pilots flying vs high experienced tankers - with the usual result…
You make a strong point. It is not as crazy as I percieved it to be. Is still maintain that I doubt this is the case in War Thunder, but you do make a strong point.
"According to one of the DEVs who spoke on Q&A MM takes into account:
plane level
player level [I don’t know if it’s the level in a given nation or the general level]"
2013 eh
And there were occasional mentions, but we can’t reach all of them today because a lot of the material was deleted.
I’m not a casual Sunday player like most people here,
I was heavily involved for a while.
My “curiosity” led to multiple bans
First, I was punished for wanting to know how the XP system works, which today you have so nicely described in the report envelope. Later, I was permanently silenced for raising the topic of the massive outpouring of Chinese bots, which you all read about in reports today.
If a tool is created, a way to prove it, the game community will definitely find out about it sooner than snail informs about it officially.
Just note that these mechanisms are actually a bit of a scam, because when you pay for a premium account you are actually paying for faster progress, and this is intended to limit too fast progress. Who will officially admit that they rob their customers?
My advice in this situation is as mentioned before. Take a break from the game, just do logins, and await the score to drop a little and see how you feel returning.
Or, if you so desire, you may attempt changing to a different tree and seeing if piloting one of those changes your outcomes.
I would strongly suggest limiting yourself to only 2 or 3 matches, and don’t bother with winning or losing. Learn ti play and fight your best for you.
Even if the rest of the team completely dumbies it up, if you’ve played smart and to the best of your ability, you have nothing to be shamed for.
Further, if it’s still problematic, see about squadding up.
But to the matter: Some years ago, a fellow posted a thread in which he claimed that premium vehicles are loaded for their first 20 missions. “Tinfoil hat alert”. I had a premium that was untouched. I crewed it and proceeded to test the matter. The answer was clear, it didn’t happen. So I told him that I have decicive evidence to the contrary. His hypothesis is WRONG.
Then the interesting thing happened: He came back suggesting that maybe it doesn’t apply as widely as he thought. But for him, he was on an incredible reproducible streak beyond all reasonable probability. He linked the consecutive server replays. So I decided to examine as closely as possible for me what he claimed to see. I used all the ingredients he used: same mode and rank. And amazingly enough, he was right for those constrains. I got the same crazy results just like clockwork.
There was quite some disbelief, but what this guy was offering was as close to a scientific theory as you can get in war thunder: It stated, that an action with certain parameters will cause the MM to place you on top. And this was reproducible and/or falsifiable for everyone who matched the parameters.
Some of the scientific minded folks quickly narrowed it down to be working in certain modes only.
Then of course the administration cut in, told us “these are not the droids you seek” and closed threads.
When I checked it a year later, I could not observe the effect.
But imho your reply as a whole reminds me on some other folks (some time ago in Berlin) standing in front of piles of construction material and listening to their local admins which cited: “Nobody is going to built a wall”…
Immediately goes into stat shaming. Facepalm Go touch grass. Good damn. If you have something to say it should be constructive criticism not “Get good” bruh.
Well as much as I have been avoiding this topic because of the stupidity of the original post, what exactly where you expecting to happen after the OP right off the back brought up stats which in particular was win rate.
Honestly, it’s hard to avoid with the absurdity of the original argument and as other people pointed out had some serious main character energy with conspiracy theories as to why they keep losing even when they do good, they still lose which is some real main character energy since something they don’t seem to understand that in the game the best means to win matches is to work together with good teammates (they don’t have to be the best players, but not stupid and or useless) which is very difficult when you have a large amount low level players who don’t know what they are doing which makes many matches much harder.
And one thing I will particularly add which is an assumption of mines, they made this as a result of probably playing jets particularly withing the br range of 11.3 which is full of low-level premium players which make matches much harder because that’s an area of the game where you would want players who know what they are doing, and the reason I say this is based on the trend of many of their most played vehicles are jets that are within that br range (Not all of them) so I see it as the most logical conclusion.
And while I am not here to throw insults (if I were I wouldn’t have avoided this topic) the only suggestion I can think of giving them to help them is genuinely saying it’s a skill issue, and not in the sense I am saying they are bad (well I am because they clearly need a reality check and have their ego taken down a notch) but the fact that nothing can be done about what they are experiencing and it’s something every player has to put up with. Yet it doesn’t help how they go off with conspiracy theories with gaijin being the scapegoat as to why they are doing so bad, and to be fair the actual overall reason they are having issues is gaijins fault, they are still spouting conspiracies accusing them of targeting them in order to make the game worse for them, and the way they go about it makes them sound like they have a superiority complex as if they are much better than they actually are and to a point that the only reason they must be doing worse is not their fault (as said before it’s actually not but the reason it is happening is something that is normal for any player).
In short, yes, they probably are doing worse because they are matched with a decent number of unexperienced players who really should be playing low tier, who by playing higher tiers than they actually should be drag their team’s performance down which the OP did notice, however they came to the wrong conclusion as they blamed gaijin for the wrong reasons with those conspiracy theories. In the end there is no solution to their problem as the reason they think they are having a problem does not exist, and at the same time they are clearly frustrated and might be better off taking some sort of break since the original post is not something that can be described as reasonable, otherwise they just have to put up with it or hope more of the community try to push gaijin to put restrictions of buying top tier premiums to cut the problem off at its source.
Puh - your post was hard to read as you managed to transform a rather short core message into a wall of text. It would be great if you would consider to use more paragraphs and punctuation marks next time. Thx in advance.
I share your view that most problems discussed in this forum are quite often a “me/you” problem instead of a “they/them” issue, but self-reflection is rather rare these days and blaming others for own failures is actually the standard approach of most people when things don’t work as expected.
But - using “conspiracy theory” multiple times in this case is actually rather counterproductive, you might consider to do some research who invented this expression and why. Basically nobody here can say for sure that his opinion is “right” - just based on missing insight.
As pointed out earlier, this discussion about how the game works is purely academic and rather pointless - the only way to get some clarity would be an equivalent of “wikileaks”, so a kind of “gaijinleaks”.
