Just commenting on this for the sake of it: Malzi, one of the bigger montage YouTubers, doesn’t have them in his tech tree.
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From me, I created it last year ;)
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Nice work, it would have had me fooled for a blissful moment haha. Did you post it publicly anywhere?
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On the War Thunder Reddit. People were not happy. Some were dissappointed that it was fake, others were offended by the idea of the vehicles coming back.
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Strange, I searched your post’s title and nothing came up. Was it deleted?
On the topic of Reddit, I’m thinking of running a poll to see what the majority of that side of the community wants. This post had a somewhat mixed but overall supportive reception, which makes me hopeful: https://new.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1dgvjhp/can_we_just_bring_these_german_tanks_back_now/
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I think so, yes. They got my Reddit Account permanently banned in the end, as well as any other Account I dare post with on their sub. Reddit is an awful place if you are looking for free speech in my opinion.
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What did you get banned for? From the little I’ve seen, you have to say some pretty awful stuff to get permanently banned.
That being said, I’ve never really engaged with the community outside of posting lighthearted jokes, so I can’t comment from more than a lurker’s perspective.
He probably forgot to edit a horrible reply before a mod saw it.
He has put out some “interesting” takes on this forum.
Do you have any examples? A quick look through their profile didn’t bring up anything too controversial.
You would have to scroll a bit back. He was chat banned for like 6 months so maybe he learned his lesson. I interacted a good bit last year with him.
He would compare the removal of these vehicles to oppression of Germans and what not.
There was a pretty messed up thing he said last year that was quickly edited. I dont know if i can go back and quote it pre-edit though. Im not sure if i can type it out without getting myself in trouble.
Is there a reason why these tanks cannot come back in a proper form, like the CV90105? The vehicle came back in a quite different form but I think everyone was happy. Skins were redone as well.
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Regarding the War Thunder Reddit, they gave me a 7 day ban for trying to post a thread on the German Trinity, then shortly after this Ban I saw a post showing a tank covered in Anime waifu stuff. So I switched to another Account and left my opinion on it. Unfortunately I was not very subtle about my true identity, and Ban evasion is a violation of Reddits TOS. So both Accounts got permanently banned. One of them being my Main Account with 3k Karma ;(
Regarding this Forum, I made clear that these vehicles are to be reclaimed by real force and terrorism against Gaijin If necessary. For the 6 month Ban I got too xenophobic against Russia/ns because of my opinion on Russian bias.
Now back on topic please.
Am I misinterpreting your message by taking it to mean we should somehow forcibly make Gaijin return these vehicles to the game? Because if so, I disagree.
‘Real force and terrorism’, however that can be shown through player feedback, will do nothing to help. Gaijin would simply ban the player, and rightfully so. The most effective thing we can do is present well-structured arguments for the vehicles’ return and hope that Gaijin acknowledges them.
I have to point out that I have settled down a bit since then. The fantasies are still there as a final straw, but I agree with you that this issue has to be solved in more peaceful and humane ways. On the other hand I have little faith in Gaijin to listen to us and change their mind. Just look at that whole review incident that had to take place for the Gaijin people to react to the Community. And even then they had made some very bad statements.
I doubt we can pull off anything like it, and it has been already 5/5.5 years since the removal, without any improvements or Hope.
As long as they remain just that - fantasies.
I agree that Gaijin changing their mind doesn’t seem likely at the moment, but what more can we do than give continued feedback in places where they will (hopefully) see it?
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Feedback in places where Gaijin will see it?
I would hazard a guess that user reviews on Steam is the best option :-)
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Perhaps for the Panther II, as it could become the historical 75mm version? Though I’d personally like it kept as it is now, simply because I love the concept and look of a Schmalturm’d, 88mm-armed Panther crowned with a big ol’ WW2 night vision device :)
As for the Tiger II 105, there’s not much you can do to ‘historicalise’ it without turning it back into a Tiger II H. The engine, gun and rangefinder were all proposed but didn’t end up being much more than that.
(Again, I believe its existence in the game doesn’t hurt the game itself).
And the Coelian - I’m only familiar with the project on a surface level, but I imagine it’s already in the most accurate form possible when compared to the plans and wooden mock-up. I’m open to correction from anyone more informed on the subject.
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By the way, thanks for sending me down that rabbit hole on the CV 90105 TML. It’s pretty interesting to me that they completely changed a tank’s model and characteristics instead of adding a separate, ‘improved’ version.
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Continuing the discussion from Removed/Ahistorical vehicles:
i think it was this one?
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oABLGW
Panther II with anime body pillows could be historical accurate. 🤓
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