Same, I like it the way it is in WT.
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Don’t give me hope. I would shell out an unreasonable amount of money to have those three.
(And I imagine I’m not alone. Hint hint, Gaijin…)
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How about this
When the 12 Tech Tree vehicles of Rank IV have all been researched and purchased, the three German Tanks get unlocked, but for a price. Players who are uninterested can just hide them and return their Tech Tree to normal. Cannot add a corresponding Icon right now, it is nearly 1:30 am and I need to get up at 6:00 am.
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The current Panther II adds a lot to to the German tree, which is part of why I want it so bad… so I agree the current form is awesome, but the true Panther II would be nice.
Coelian was a completed hull with full scale mock up turret, its more real than its replacement Ostwind II, which is quite funny.
105 Tiger is exactly the kind of tank I would want at its BR, but also the tank I know the least about… is there really no “true” form for it?
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And you are welcome, it was quite a good change IMO, well done on gaijins part. It actually made the tank much better. The Italian M60 also had a similar treatment, and its fun now, at 8.0 the M60 armor actually works quite well and the gun is of course great.
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I wouldn’t say it’s as logical a way to return them as others we’ve discussed, and I can see backlash happening for making tech-tree vehicles premium.
Though personally, I’d be happy to see them available in any form.
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Agreed. In a perfect world, we’d have both.
So, the Tiger II: the most in-depth source I can find on it is Germany’s Tiger Tanks: VK45.02 to Tiger II: Design, Production & Modifications by Thomas Jentz and Hilary Doyle. Here’s a link to an open-source PDF if you’re interested: https://porschecarshistory.com/wp-content/old/biblio/60/Germany,s%20Tiger%20tanks%20-%20VK45.02%20to%20Tiger%20II.pdf (Search the website’s name with the book’s title if you don’t want to risk clicking random links).
Basically, the upgrades it has over the regular Tiger II H are a number of proposals that didn’t make it to production. The book explains it pretty well, starting from page 144 (or 139 of the PDF).
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Still unsure why gaijin doesn’t want to make them marketplace vehicles, perhaps we should try to get a statement on that?
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Very cool, thanks a lot. Gonna go through this whole thing.
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I just realized, It’s been 5 long years since those vehicles have been removed. Wow. Time does really fly doesn’t it? I’d say the 5 year anniversary of their removal marks an awesome opportunity to bring 'em back, even only for purchase, i would pay a lot to get those beauties!
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look at this…people who already have em don’t want it back…
i think they should bring them back for veteran players only(old guard)
We should be a classless Community in my opinion.
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I wouldn’t be opposed to them being gifted or made available for research once an account reaches a certain age.
For example, on an account’s third birthday the Panther II could be unlocked. For its fourth, the Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K). And its fifth, the Coelian.
Or even better, the player could be given the choice of which vehicle to unlock on every birthday (perhaps starting from a minimum year).
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I think the latter would be a great way of reintroducing removed tech tree vehicles in general. Lower tier vehicles like the Gladiator IIF/S could be available as ‘birthday presents’ for the first few years, then mid-tier ones like the German trio could be available after that.
I might submit this as a separate suggestion sometime, actually.
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That’s honestly a forum worthy suggestion. Seriously. That is a fair and good idea and maybe the people who already possess the Panther II and Tiger II 10,5 could get a title or something saying “Panther II Owner Pre 2019” xD.
In all seriousness, good idea.
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Thanks! I’ll try to get round to an in-depth write up of it sometime soon, I haven’t really found time for much WT-related stuff as of late.
I do like your idea of a veteran-esque title or similar, can I include that in the suggestion when I get round to it? Cheers!
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Of course!
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Something I found interesting, the Panther II is one in a handful of vehicles to receive economy changes in a datamined future patch. Being a vehicle that most owners would have spaded long ago, could the changes in modification costs indicate a possible reintroduction in the future?
It’s a vain hope, they’re likely just readjusting costs after making NVD stock for those vehicles. But at least they haven’t forgotten the Panther II exists.
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Might just be an automated change, to every vehicle of a certain rank that has NVD.