Please Give Us Back the Original Panther II, Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian," and Tiger II 10.5cm KwK

Also again ignoring everything i have said and repeating the same things over and over.

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I’m ignoring what you post because you ignore what I post. You ask me to explain, and I do, then you ignore it.

I was already grinding the German tree and I decided to get them.

What have you said that i have not addressed?

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There is a third option. That being they dont throw out more fake stuff and they dont start removing tanks from players.

Define this please. If you are saying that we get the back the sl cost of buying it and the rp gets returned as free rp, then no. That is a horrible exchange.

That is gaijin taking my rp by force and tell me “if you want it back, pay for it”

The third option would be to make them market place vehicles, that way no more new copies of Panther IIs and Coelians are created, but it allows for the existing ones to be redistributed to players who really want them, i know i would pay as much as an IS-7 to get my hands on that King Panther.

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Could not watch it yet, your opinions on it?

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Regurgitates false equivalencies between the Tiger II 105 and Panther II which were physically impossible vs the F-16AJ which was a sales prop of an F-16A

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Im not sure why people even bring that up, it doesn’t matter exactly how fake a vehicle is, they are past the threshold for Gaijin, and both were only added for a specific reason knowing they would otherwise be too fake to be in the game, with the plan to remove them one day. The point is that there are many players who never had a chance to get them, and everyone should have a fair chance to get anything in the game. We dont want this to turn into WOT where there are hundreds of exclusive vehicles that only appeared for a short amount of time and have gone completely, and we certainly dont want them then turning up in an “auction house” or being locked behind gambling boxes that are marketed at 12+ year olds. All these vehicles should come back, including the removed vehicles from tech trees for other reasons, like the Gladiators that were removed or the Chinese PT-76. There are so many cool vehicles in the game, why arbitrarily make it so that only a small portion of the playerbase can have them.

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Thanks for the translation

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@Bloodmaster_XT

Here is the “dedicated” thread of the German Trinity if you are interested

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Perfect, thank you. It looks as if you’re the driving force behind this idea.

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I was going to suggest bringing them into the warbond shop rotation and found your message. I think the ticket system you’ve proposed would fit very well into the current game.

I did try and make it as an official suggestion, but it got rejected because “the idea of event vehicles coming back had already been suggested”, and that suggestion is this Rerun old events or add a way to obtain old event vehicles, which details nothing about how they could actually come back. Its unfair and doesnt really make any sense if you ask me because that suggestion is nothing like mine, and the core idea of mine is around the mechanic for them coming back, not about just event vehicles, but the suggestion mods made their decision so it is what it is. Ive resubmitted it with any mention of event vehicles removed with just the mechanic explained, so hopefully when that gets looked at it gets through. Its been about 3 and a half weeks now since i submitted the suggestion so it should be looked at soon.

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Is it something you can appeal?

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It does, actually. There is a reason this community is passionate about a form of accuracy, such as the new Israeli Arty system that is panned by most everyone for being horrendously mismodeled. For game sake, there are areas that can be simplified. In the case of the Tiger 105 and Panther 2, they simply do not exist all together, a threshold that does need to be reached. The Corelian is closer to that threshold, but only existed as a wooden mockup. This is why we do not see the FV215B. They are only desired because they look cool with their ahistoric configurations and are now exclusive. They shouldn’t come back, in my opinion, because they do not fit the scope of the game. This goes for all remaining fake vehicles as well once adequate replacements are found for them.

I only quote this because I hate the idea of feeding into FOMO. It is okay to not aquire every single vehicle in this game. The players that missed out on these vehicles aren’t being cheated out of an experience.

The event vehicles can. The ahistorical ones shouldn’t. Such as the lackluster 3 in this post.

Why? They exist in the tech tree they should be in. There is zero reason for those to return.

Again, why? It was replaced with an accurate Chinese vehicle that is arguably the same thing with some cosmetic differences. It provides zero changes to a player’s experience other than padding the grind.

Out of 2,500 total vehicles, the only cool ones were removed?

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Just on this note, what about them is lackluster? I’ve heard they’re competitive vehicles, if not meta-defining ones, at their respective BRs.

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They are, though. The Coelian is 6.3, with an enclosed turret. You can’t get any enclosed german SPAA for the 6.3 or 6.7 lineups, now that the Kugelblitz is 7.0.

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I would agree. In a similar vein, the Panther II fills that ‘versatile WW2 medium’ role exclusively at 7.0.

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