Please Give Us Back the Original Panther II, Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian," and Tiger II 10.5cm KwK

Why do you think I am doing this crusade in the name of the German Trinity or investing 500€ a month on the Market for an E100? Every rare vehicle in the hands of more players is a successful deed for the Community and thus my wellbeing.

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Go focus on yourself

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Probably not a good use of that kind of money. I would recommend voting with your wallet. Kind of weird complaining this much then turning around and giving them basically apartment rent money every month.

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I am empowering them to make better decisions.

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Yes, empowering them to continue doing what they are doing.

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Is he a troll or just genuinely that confused?

If this is the same guy i talked with about this same topic last year, I believe he is actually someone who is a bit too “obsessed” with Germany. His username is the red baron’s name.

There was a guy with either the same or similar name last year who, when being told that gaijin wont add them back, suggested something along the lines of “it would be a shame if a eastern european city was bombed and it was blamed on russia.”

It’s the same guy, I’ve been talking with him for a while too.

He has a YouTube channel where he posts propaganda, for the lack of a better word, of his “holy trinity” and complaints about Russian bias that when looked at are nothing more than terrible shots.
In one video he even desecrated the image of Manfred himself.

Either he’s a very confused young lad or the greatest troll I’ve ever seen and I seriously have no clue which of the two it is.

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Maybe that’s because they actually have unique things to be added. Having an active military industrial complex does that.

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Except that the countries that receive copy paste also have unique stuff.

Gaijin added two M109s to Israel before Ro’em or Sholev.

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New tree, new copy paste. Germany got an M109 too, though.

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Still ignoring the questions, and to prove that you are wrong Gaijin made a change today and they compensated effected everyone for that change.
From https://forum.warthunder.com/t/server-update-16-07-2024/128375:

  • JH-7A — the PL-8 modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
  • MiG-29 (Germany), MiG-29 (Italy), MiG-29G — the P-27P1 modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
  • MiG-29 — the R-27R modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
  • F-16AJ, F-16A ADF, F-16A MLU — the AIM-7M modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
  • J-8F — the PL-12 modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
  • Mirage 2000C-S4, Mirage 2000C-S5 — the Matra Super 530F modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
  • JA37D — the RB71 (DF) modification has been removed, and the cost in Research Points, Silver Lions or Golden Eagles has been compensated.
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So, how would you feel if YOUR Panther II, Coelian and Tiger II 10 5 got permanently removed from your Account, in exchange for the equivalent amount of SL and free XP, together with all other owners?

I do not endore this possibility but it would also be fair. Either we all get them, or you owners lose them.

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Good thing they wont. As Gaijin themself stated,you had chance to obtain them and those who did can keep them. Like the removed Gladiators or Italian planes in german tree,or removed SB2 and Yer 2s,or S.M.79s

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Is this supposed to be any sort of point?

Everyone had a chance to get them. You didn’t take advantage of that chance. You missed out. That’s life.

War Thunder is in active Development with Players coming, going or taking breaks all the time. This makes every singular/one time only chance unfair. It would only be pro-player If there was a recurring annual chance at the least.

This is how I got the Maus.
This is how I got the Black Prince.
This is how I got the KV-1E.
This is how I got the KV-2 ZIS-6.
This is how I got the IS-7.

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Using “tough luck” isnt an argument for why they shouldnt come back, which you still havent explainined your reasoning for. I honestly just want you to explain why you have taken the stance that you have, if it is that you just want to flex on people who dont have them then you are allowed to say that, even if people wont like it. If there is another reason then please share it.

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I’ve explained it many, many times.

Let me be clear

They are fake vehicles. They are at best a napkin sketch.

Gaijin should not have fake vehicles in game.

Gaijin announced in advanced they were being removed from the game, but those that had them could keep them.

They are gone.

You missed them.

They aren’t coming back.

I spent time, money and energy to unlock them because Gaijin said we could keep them. I don’t agree with them being removed for that reason. That doesn’t mean they should come back because some people want them.

Demanding that they be re-added while also saying other nations should not get fake tanks is hypocritical.

It isn’t unfair. They were in the game. They were removed. You missed out.