Please don't move the M26 to 6.7

If you want a 1 vehicle lineup fill your boots. Your choice but I know many make actual lineups. If you are saying in a full uptier all your team are the same BR I advise bug reporting to Gaijin.

If 6.0 is the lineup I am running, I don’t have an option but to play 6.0 in a full uptier.

So are Tigers and Panthers so accept it

Tigers and Panthers are the only vehicle options Germany gets, they’re not optional.

Solo, no. Lineups are not hard to think about. Why are you not using the Panther versions and only your heavies? You know I successfully used MY 3.0 in this BR zone when full uptiers happen.

It is NOT everyone else’s fault Germany wasted time on heavies and heavy mediums! Same as all other nations failings in terms of WT.

Yes, and you think other nation’s have much better? heck a few got nerfed to PLEASE Germany (reload nerfs because APDS has big pen numbers!!)

Most nations are limited, at least that and a few other nations actually HAVE heavies. Poor Italy in that respect, but yes they have can make up for it with early strike mobility. GB made their Churchills and anti-Soviet machines

Germany suffers from its popularity (numbers) just like US Air in ARB. They do not suffer.

Edit regarding 6.0… Jagdpanther, then your teams gets (got) the 6.3 variety. These vehicles and a few TDs plus yeah the Puma can all be used, aircraft too, this is a RB convo…
About the M26 of course in case we forget.

Also I will agree the H and E shouldnt really be the same BR; low BR does need wiggle room no matter what you think.

M82 late doesn’t compensate BR up

IF everything else shifts then it might not be as bad as some might expect. Of course the “why would you pick” comes up but US is pretty stacked in this zone regardless.

And is it me or did the Japanese ones already have a different pen. I always thought the STs were already 185mm pen, or is it the filler? Or was it Japan always had late ammo?

Panthers are essentially heavies anyways, just Gaijin that sticks to random historical designations based on whatever specific nation decided on based on whatever time period they were in, despite being in a game that is not using historical matchmaking.

a few got nerfed to PLEASE Germany

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Germany suffers from its popularity

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Edit regarding 6.0… Jagdpanther,

Jagdpanther is 6.3, Puma is 3.3, I can’t use a Tiger at 6.0 so instead I should use a 3.3 light tank?

So that’s why they have on-par mobility with other mediums like M4/T26 and such, right ?

The Panther II has better hull armor than any Panther preceding it. The mobility is also substantially improved over any of the other Panthers.

Long 88 at 5.3 is only found on poorly armored, extremely vulnerable, relatively slow tank destroyers.

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Comet to match Panther A at 5.7, when Comet first moved there and then later the increased reload.

Check queues over time, same can be done for ARB and US and explains that situation. The forum. You and a fair few others over sensitive about Germany (though accept there are toxic people in abundance too that have personal issues against nations or overly patriotic, not me). Yes, similar exists in all nations but check the players and the lowest lvl players are often on ONE nation. Still, relatively not just one nation of course. If you think a level 10 Tiger/Panther player is a metric to go by then I see those that ignore the minor nation issues are also popular (not GB but still numbers are low and GB lead teams are rare at these BRs. Others like Russia and Germany are much more popular).

No, it is still an option, one I used for YEARS… YEARS… still got a positive K/D in it bevause I know how to use a light tank. Puma is just the same (different pros and cons). Could Germany do with an upgrade in lights, hell yeah!

You can have SA though, no one will miss it and GB might get its own ones from reality.

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Yeah the T26 is a real speed demon

Always makes me wonder when I hit the front in a sluggish vehicle then look back and Tigers/Panthers are… miles behind (not on about early positions, they are following). Of course 1/4 are people who have YET to turn of Join Battle in Progress (but all German teams aren’t mainly new starters, honest… in RB… sigh). They are faster yet… slower.

Yeah, I’ve not actually seen the final BRs as I mentioned. Jagdpanther been 6.0 for a long time so was on my mind.

It can’t be fast because narrow tracks(USA seriously should get duckbills)

WarThunder doesn’t model ground pressure so that’s pretty unimportant.

That said the acceleration of tbe M4/T26 and Panther A/G/F is pretty comparable.

So how ostketten are working?

Gaijin specifically tweaks the values related to resistance and the like for the tanks that have Winterketten/Ostketten equipped, and makes them slightly lower.

Every other tank uses the exact same characteristics though.

Not to mention that even with Winterketten/Ostketten the changes are barely noticeable at best.

Remember when stats used to have max elevation a vehicle could traverse?

It just shows that Panthers will have competitive mobility while also having great armor layout and armament.

Comet to match Panther A at 5.7

The Comet got change for the sake of Germany? How do you come up with that?

Check queues over time, same can be done for ARB and US and explains that situation.

Seems fine to me.

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On EU it’s Russia and Germany that are more popular, but the real popular place is Russia top tier, shocker.

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CIS also clearly favoring Russia.

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And not to mention that BR changes just got pushed as well so it’s subject to change anyways.

Nothing that indicates that Germany is ‘suffering from popularity’’ but I understand that’s the narrative the subreddit has been spewing for years now, next thing you’ll tell me it’s the History Channel at fault and how every German player thinks their Wittman and just press forward and thinks their invincible, that’s what Reddit tells me.

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Nothing to do with me nor my opinions of this game.

That’s some low player counts overall you show (Germany looks pretty popular still… hmm). Give it a check over the week 👍

So are you saying many newer players don’t go for Germany first? Populate the 5.0-6.7 bracket? Yes, Russia popular and USA too. There are 10 nations to pick from each match now.

Nothing to do with me nor my opinions of this game.

Just so happens that a lot of people’s opinions are just the opinions of someone else they copied.