Please dev buff the F4J(UK) im begging you 🥺👉👈

[Normandy_Corsair]

@Zyranovos

Because almost everyone, even people I know who have played the game since its inception all agree the F1C isn’t hot dogshit like you’re trying to paint.

What I said, is that it’s a one trick pony relying fully on the Magic 2 for its 12.0 BR. If those magic 2s were instead magic 1s, it would be 11.0 or 11.3.

@Zyranovos

I didnt call you brain dead, I said you have to be brain dead to think it’s a bad plane.

mental gymnastics

[Zyranovos]

@Normandy_Corsair

What I said, is that it’s a one trick pony relying fully on the Magic 2 for its 12.0 BR. If those magic 2s were instead magic 1s, it would be 11.0 or 11.3.

And that’s fine, that’s every modern plane in the game. The JAS39A could have the RB-99 in game, but it doesn’t, and if it did, that would also “make the plane”

@Normandy_Corsair

mental gymnastics

It’s reading something and understanding a different thing. Saying ‘the missile makes the plane’ is not the same as saying the missile is a one trick pony.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@Zyranovos

And that’s fine, that’s every modern plane in the game.

No? lol

[Rarefss]

FGR2 has better engine but its much heavier also worse missile than F4S it just engine upgraded F4E

[Normandy_Corsair]

@Rarefss

it just engine upgraded F4E

Both FGR.2 and F-4S have no relation to F-4E other than being phantoms.

[AlvisWisla]

FGR2 is not “much heavier”. It’s the best flight performance Phantom in the game, and it’s not even close.

[Rarefss]

Same radar same missile only difference is engine between F4E and Fgr

[Normandy_Corsair]

No. F-4E has an entirely different radar from FGR.2 and F-4S, a different airframe, different missiles, an internal gun, etc.

[Rarefss]

both has same missile and airframe does nothing on that br acting like it has insane dogfight capability

[Normandy_Corsair]

@Rarefss

both has same missile

No…

F-4E - AIM-9J / AIM-7E2
FGR.2 - AIM-9G / Skyflash
F-4S - AIM-9H / AIM-7F

@Rarefss

and airframe does nothing on that br

Yes it does.

[Rarefss]

Aim-7E2 and Skyflash is the same missile same stat nothing difference

[Cloudzy26160]

The F-4J(UnK) and the F-104S TAF are probably the 2 premiums I most regret buying.

@Zyranovos

right now a decrease to 11.7 would fix every issue

nah, it would just move the problem to a different place, BR changes are basically just a shell game, shuffling the problem around to stop people realizing how bad it really is.

@Zyranovos

decompression at 10.0-14.3

This is the only real answer.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@Rarefss

Aim-7E2 and Skyflash is the same missile same stat nothing difference

1. F-4S does not use Skyflash
2. Skyflash has 3-4x the track rate
3. Skyflash has double the proxy fuse range (15m from 8m)
4. As I said earlier, F-4E has AIM-9J, the other two have navy sidewinders (G/H)

[Rarefss]

We are talking about Phantom FGR not f4s??? Phantom FGR being 12.0 for having better engine thats it also skyflash is based on sparrow in game performance still does not compensate for the aircraft
engines are powerful and acceleration is good but raw engine power alone does not justify 12.0 br

[Normandy_Corsair]

PD radar and 4 skyflashes does

[TyphoonCro]

@AlvisWisla

That easily tracks targets… I’ve had no issues with the PDV modes outside them not having IFF.

They actually do have IFF in PDV mode
I just can’t recall if IFF indication bar is on top of radar display or on bottom of radar display

EDIT: Just checked with F-4S. The IFF bar (indicating a friendly) is displayed near top of the radar screen in PDV mode