That’s only because they’ve now slammed leos into practically every tree. which is also dumb as hell.
subtrees used to have some form of relation with the parant nation The benelux tree is conviently pulling in NL as it contains Belgium and Luxemburgh and they’ve been sucked in.
India has literally no relation there was no reason, at all to add it to the British tree, they’ve been independent since 1947 as well as they’re the first republic to ever join the commonwealth, thus not be a commonwealth realm.
They’ve had no military connection with Britain either.
IT makes zero sense and everyone has said that from the very beggining.
Our military was, our government wanted to keep it in house as to bolster 1 the economy and 2 make us non reliant on a foreign power for our equipment. Kind of like Italy with their Ariete.
That’s my point with the extra information, I was making it clear that I may have been wrong on the actual trialing of an M1A2.
Last I checked the A1 wasn’t far off british standard but the mk7 vickers mopped the floor with them.
Yeah it’s been something which i was trying to look into but have a massive lack of time due to work and what not.
It has for other nations and even managed to get Germany it’s own subtree lol.
soon to be in japan and israel for your convenience
eh from the start, germany needed subtrees just as much as britain or france…
There is nothing the subtrees specialy took over that didnt exist as another option
Not that isreal needs it to be fair.
I just got the merkava MK4B and i’ve 9 deaths to 24 kills or something like that with it.
As well as 89 % winrate, so far so good.
Germany didn’t at all mate, they added about 18 vehicles with it, adding a literal mirage to the tree which is at a nicer BR than the french counter part 3E. Did they really need a Mirage, F5C Or a random hornet? what rolls do they fill which the EF2000 or previous air craft do not?
they got the best british hunter as well as I said before 2 years about before the tree was even announced.
They’re also the only 1 of the big 3 which actually has a sub tree.
it had over 400 vehicles before the swiss addition
depending how gajin adds it, the sources are there for it to be a strv122 armor with the 2a6 gun
Would actualy be better then the 2a7V cause gajin is… smart with their implementations and totaly logical
speaking totaly potential wise, how much they actualy did of that yet is another matter, gajin being very… resourcefull at what they do is another matter again as well you see in more and more subtrees.
The only good implementation of a subtree was the SA one with a lot original vehicles.
Which the brits still hatet on
reviving an other wise dead air tree and giving them sth to do
Besides that the hornets did give germany fnf armament they were missing
air wise germany by far is not a big 3 anymore. Generaly the term is overholed and not realistic anymore, everynation gets just as much addition all together, france and britian are just as big as germany. germany has only slightly more stuff cause its older tree if anything.
Comparing the development of germany to US and Russia is frankly ridiculous as well for modern stuff.
The countries are multiple times larger then germany. In modern days china is way more fit to be actualy called one of the “big 3s” for air.
Like always its just gajins … resourcfulness stopping them from getting way more
This was a Royal Ordnance built upgrade package for the T-55 featuring the L7 105mm. The T-55 is ex Polish/Czech, it can be distinguished from the Type 59 with the different coaxial MG housing.
Like you said, we also built and demonstrated various upgrades packages for the Type 59, including 105mm, optics, fire control systems, and add on armour packages. Britain has a very, very deep pool of export offerings to pick from without resorting to commonwealth vehicles.
No wonder mate it’s nothin to do with Britain and the fact they got added just to pad out nothing which our vehicles could have makes no sense.
They likely will use it for C&P man.
It added literally nothign that wasn’t already there bar a hornet which isn’t good anyways lol.
They had FnF equipment man, as well as that the EF2000 literally has spices which puts it above the hornet.
They have over 160 air craft how on earth are they not a major nation lol.
Not true at all. Germany before the swiss tree has now 463 vehicles, Britain as of right now about 332 as per the wiki . That’s over 131 more lol so no they are not anywhere near the same.
France has even less with just 258 as per the wiki.
How so ?
Again Germany is still considered a global super power is it not and one of the biggest vendors of military equipment in europe lol.
like all trees, copy pasta with a sprinkle of new stuff every few years
but it added stuff to be researched that was the main point, with more possible even if lower tier
just saying but you do remember the hornet was added half a year earlier then the eft aesa right?
Our only other fnf vehicles were the f4f ice, uht. The IDS SLE came later then the hornet as well.
aint speaking total aircraft, speaking potential for additions
as I said, every nation gets roughyl the same amount of vehicles now. Germany is just older.
The number of vehicles isnt anywhere where it actualy matters gameplay wise
US /russia/china a heck larger then germany and have more ressources on hand to use.
didnt fight that. But its mostly ground, missle wise not aircrafts
Well aware of that, and even then I seen barely anyone use it over the standard EF2000 lol even with the limited CAS it had.
Well aware mate which is why the EF2000 was used a lot more than the ICE or the Hornet.
What are you on about, you said they’re not a major nation, they very clearly are in the game.
What are you talking about? France has nearly 200 less vehicles than Germany lol how is that anywhere near them.
ground forces for britain released 2015, germany 2014
Also “germany is just older” doesn’t really work for Britain does it seeing as it’s been there since what? 2015, it’s had eleven years and germany still has more than 100 vehicles than it does.
Japan , 291 vehicles and was added in 2016, 10 years ago. and only 2 years after Germany and have nearlyt 200 less vehicles overall.
hell germany has more vehicles than USA does. as they only have 435.
In fact Germany only has 5 less vehicles overall than Russia does, and we all know who is the favourite child for additions.
So do not tell me that other nations have the same as germany lol, Italy has a meagre 243, Isreal 105 or so but it is missing half the ranks, hence why I didn’t mention it
Oh hey, that’s interesting. I could only find the Type 59 one
Britain definitely has got more than enough vehicles from it’s own industry that could be added to the tree. While I personally like the South African vehicles that the subtree provided, I am pretty sure that Britain could have a tree filled to the brim with just vehicles either built by British companys or used by the British military.
It is a huge shame that Gaijin is so dead set on subtree spam, because there are so many interesting vehicles that now have such a low chance of being added, thanks to Gaijins prioritization and philosophy behind adding new vehicles.
When the AS90 was finally added, we’ve been told by BVVD that Gaijin wants to avoid adding more vehicles when a role has already been filled, meaning that unique vehicles of a similar role as something that has been copied over from another nation (cough OSAs, Strelas, M44s, M109s, etc cough) will likely not be added for a looooong time.
I do get why people want to see more Commonwealth stuff, but the chance of these vehicles taking up spots that British vehicles could fill is just too big and that sucks a lot.
Now instead of having to compete with just South Africa and India, Britain also has to compete with the entirety of the Commonwealth nations for who gets to have their vehicles present in the tree and that’s honestly messed up.
I agree entirely. BVVD saying what he did about the AS90 confirms something that is obviously common sense about subtrees, but that the various community managers have denied over and over for years - that the addition of subtree content does seriously impede if not outright prevent domestic additions that would occupy the same role. There’s a reason that there are 3x more South African non-SPAA WW2 armoured cars in the tech tree than British, despite Britain fielding several orders of magnitude more, and that’s because once that space/role in the tech tree is occupied by subtree content, producing domestic content that occupies that same space is the shunted wayyy down gaijins priority list.
Again, agreed entirely. We are missing such a vast amount of export content, not only the various upgrades for the Vickers Mk 1s, Mk 3s ,VFM5s, Mk 7s, the Vickers Mk 4 entirely, but also the huge list of tanks we uniquely modified and offered for export, like several Leopard 1s, M60s, T-55s, Type 59s, M41s, export Centurion upgrades. And instead of getting any of these (when was the last Vickers MBT added? several years ago at least), it looks like the next tank that will be filling that line is the Arjun.
