whats the relevance of you saying that to me replying to someone who clearly is over exagerating the amount of uptiers they’ve had.
If you cannot see how just leaving a game cause its an uptier is stupid then I shant continue this at all.
rather than try to fire an insult my way, fire back a relevant point or question.
Please let’s get back on topic.
thank you,
People quitting games is simply a combination of legitimate cases and cases of player negligence.
There are many situations where, due to absurd bounces, anger over disastrous maps, absurd balances, deaths due to CAS within a few minutes, etc., you can understand why players quit games out of anger. There are also many times when bringing out a second tank is unfeasible, since there are many maps where, as soon as the enemy gains control of certain areas, the game is lost and becomes a crapshoot, unless the enemy makes a terrible mistake.
Then there are players who simply quit the game simply because they die, which makes this problem difficult to solve. Even if the developers eliminated the flaws that make it legitimate to quit the game, there would still be many players leaving games because they died, essentially because they didn’t do it right.
Youd be surprised how many of the “legitimate” reasons people hit you with are infact personal reasons.
Theres a fine line between quitting once from anger, and quitting when
repair costs are no longer a cause for it, you dont have tanks for like 15k SL repair, never mind ammo etc. While granted some maps arent great none justify leaving before a match even begins
Sometime see a lot pf clickbait on my team make me give up too
For example, I understand that if the game doesn’t allow you to kill and you get killed, a player will leave the game. Or if you get killed by a plane two minutes into the game. Or if because of the small maps, if the enemy controls an area, it’s suicide to bring out another tank. On the other hand, if you get killed because you missed a shot and you’re killed, then I don’t think it’s right for players to leave the game, but there are many players who still leave.
I don’t usually do ODL, sometimes if penetrations or damage are missed, or if the game is more than lost, with enemies already respawn. But I do not usually bring out another tank, even though I’m almost certain it’s useless because enemies control key points on the map. My rule is to play all the tanks in the game, and play them for a certain number of games depending on their level. That’s why I’m interested in bringing out tanks even if it’s almost suicidal, to finish those games and switch to another tank model.
I feel that’s more than legitimate.
I have absolutely zero interest in bringing a 20 second APDS tank to brawl in a tiny village. In fact, I don’t even spawn if I see a map like that - I just go back and fly planes in EC.
Personal reasons are legitimate reasons.
I usually do well on that map as well.
its easy AF
Hardly ligitimate, a personal reason is heavily biased and thus applicable to only very few people.
Where as something such as say, repair times, was applicable to every person
Good for you, i guess. But that’s not the point.
Very legitimate, no matter what the reasons are.
You are just unable to comprehend, that people do not want to be forced to endure something that should be fun. And games are suppose to be fun, not something to endure. And if game starts forcing me to do something i don’t like, i leave.
At the end of the day, the game also has rules and basic functionality. the crew locks exist to try and make people stay in matches longer, as a punishment for early leaving.
Another fact you cannot deny, ODLing and leaving before a game even begins are seriously effecting the game now adays, as so many people do it.
I can comprehend it just fine, but the game has always been this way, most peoples “maps that are trash/ unplayable” actually are very much the opposite, most maps have a location where most types of tanks can go, and do well in.
(i am aware maps like fire arc need reworks, though its still no reason to just leave as soon as you get it)
The map itself is not bad, if you flank around it, while small, it very much is a decent map.
not great, not horrible.
Hold W into the middle and its a garbage map.
Then back to the original point, why continue to play the game? its based around uptiers, to make it A more challanging and B reduce queue times with the Br match maker.
it is inevitable you will get uptiered into something that is a better machine than yours thus invalidating the I leave if its an uptier argument,
the maps? no map is that bad it justifies leaving instantly.
Repair costs ? not an issue any more, can print SL in this game like crazy now.
so yeah @EddieVanHalo makes good discussive points on this topic, and me and him covered it a lot.
Im aware the game is no where near perfect and has glaring compression issues, or the sheer volume of premiums. But because its an uptier? thats not really justifiable seeing as teh games been this way for over 13 years.
No rules against ODL
When i ODL, i leave that battle behind. So literally do not care about it.
YES, exactly. Game was always suffering from bad design.
That is not the point.
It is not a point if i can do well in a map i hate. The point is, i am tired of playing maps i hate. Whenever anyone do well or bad in game have nothing to do with the point.
The map design is constant. It does not become good map if you play it well. If i don’t like the map, i just don’t like the map. Simple as.
For example, attica - i’ve had couple good battles on it, but it does not change the fact, that i hated every single one of them. Whenever i did 8 frags with no dying, or whenever i died 3 times scoring 2 assists, i hated the map the same way.
Because i like this game.
This is a really dumb argument.
“If i don’t like the government, why won’t i just emigrate?” “If i don’t like to eat broccoli, why even bother eating at all?” “if i don’t like to drink tonic, why drink anything at all”
You see? Not very clever argument
That’s just like your opinion, that clearly is different from people who instant leaves some maps
Argue with the crew lock not me.
Thats you if it wasnt an issue these topics wouldnt keep appearing.
Its not bad design, its bad design in your opinion
You hate maps likely becuase you dont know where to go on them mate, your hate of a map does not make the map bad.
with 3300 hours on the game ive yet to find a map that horrifically bad that I actively hate it.
The maps have locations for almost every form of tank to go.
That means inherently the maps are not badly designed.
This is ancedotal, attica Is actually not a bad map providing you play the map properly. Infact, its one of the better maps that have been released recently.
You are telling me you hate all these different factors which are key factors of the game
Thus you hate the game-
If you dont like tonic, why drink tonic.
IF you do not enjoy playing warthunder to the point you leave games constantly, why bother playing it ? isnt it just wasting your own time ?
or do you only play the game when its completely in your favour because if that is the case, then your arguments have even less merit.
thats just like a fact dude.
The maps that were total slop have been removed. in nearly 6 years of this game, ive seen maps come and go , reworks come and go.
Like what they did to normandy removing most the bushes, which is ridiculous as the area was known for it.
Is a genuine complaint.
To just go “its your opinion, maps arent bad” without any context as to why they are bad.
Like example the worse end of maps, when they chop them down into corridors to suit the people who are in and out of games quickly
So the people that ODL and want / cause matches to be over faster, are the reason these maps even exist.
maps like red desert should be the normal for tank on tank combat.
but I digress.
Ok
Nope.
I just don’t like some maps, and thats all.
You do not have to imply i do not know “how to play some maps”. I have slightly better K/D and K/Spawn than you, so statistically i do slightly better than you in battles. So i am doing just fine. Just because i can play some maps does not mean i will like the maps. So don’t go that way.
Bowl-type WOT maps like recent attica would like to have a word with you
Insane take.
This is literally one of the worst map, with bowl design that blocks all attempts of playing in A and B points when everybody takes a sniper spot. This is one of the worst map in game.
Nope.
I hate some maps. Don’t add to that.
I literally just explained it to you, yet you just either do not understand or just do not read what i am saying.
Nope, it is your opinion
You added “constantly” yourself. I have never said i leave games constantly.
I just leave when i feel like it.
Thats subjective as most the tanks I use, from about 9.3 and up are all positive.
I spent too long raging at the game rather than getting better.
You also have substantially less in game time than me with 5k less ground battles.
But why dislike them?
Attica is nothing like a WoT map mate wot is still running the same maps 14 years later, I would know I’ve played it that long.
Attica has many different routes to sneak around and flank from, to ambuhs from.
WoT literally every map has 3 routes, on in the middle, and one down each side, for either heavies or meds.
No it isnt, its only flaw is its missing decent cover from CAS.
Providing you dont just rush the A point attica is a great map.
then go the C rout flank the B snipers and push B.
Also that hardly happens as most folks get too, excited and rush the point.
Theres one spot to snipe into A from, from each spawn and for B too.
Theres far more spots to flank around those people.
Do you leave with full uptiers as well?
Or if the enemy has “cas up” ?
No you did not.
You tried to use an anology that didnt work as it was not, linguistically formed correctly.
If you wanted to compare it to in a manner of
“if i don’t like to drink tonic, why drink anything at all”
then you should of at least grammatically used it correctly.
Now why are we bothering to continue this, you will fervently deny whatever I say. to the point of just contradiction.
I chekced your stats of tanks.
The fact you have no lineups near each other stats wise shows you consistently ODL.
leopard 2a4 pzbtl
has over 600 games on its own, while the next thing is a mig21 lazur which im assuming has been used in ARB going by its KD and so on and so forth.
No, it is not infact my opinion.
The fact is most maps are well rounded, most maps, and are not bad maps-
As I previously stated the maps that are chopped up are not great maps at all but are workable.
Now have you any actual points to make or just contradiction?
I won’t be farmed if my team get stomped 3 min into the match so I will leave if I feel like it, I play to have fun, not to buff spawncamper’s KD.
Or like I’m doing right now, finishing spading the 6.3 british lineup and the only tank remaining is the FV4005 so I’m playing with it only in the lineup because I have no interest in playing the other tanks.
The problem is not player behaviour, it’s the lack of gamemodes where everybody would have fun, wanna play a 8 vehicle line up? Go ahea, want to play a mod like ARB where you only have a single spawn? Go ahead, wanna play only ground withtout CAS? Make a ground only mode…
Doing so would make a lot of poeple happy and with the concurrent player count on the game, don’t give me the queue time excuse, it’s bullshit, each time I press play button I wait less than 5 seconds to get into a match, I really don’t mind waiting 2-3 minutes to have FUN.
This is the reason I quit a game early, I don’t really care about KD but this two is just disgusting. Firstly the BR system is sucks, I like to put the new research vehicle into my line up and I know this will increase the maximum BR of the line up but I just too tired to grind all vehicle at once, but this had change after 9.3. 9.3 itself figthing thing at 10.0 - 10.3 already feel kind of bad, now just think using something from 9.0 or even 8.7. And I also kind of understand why doing this is those who had reach lvl 100, I also don’t gonna leave if I only have a lineup from a nation, but lvl 100 is just don’t care because like me I has already grind out all Japan vehicle and most other had also reaching rank 4-5 so I can just change another nation to play and wait for the unlock
