Players leaving game early

[Hudler]

@An_Pigeon

But why dislike them?

I don’t know, why some people don’t like pink color and some people love it?

Personal preference.

@An_Pigeon

Attica is nothing like a WoT

Attica LITERALLY IS WOT MAP.

It is designed with wot map design mentality, making 3 corridor paths and making center map bowl-like sniping arena.

@An_Pigeon

WoT literally every map has 3 routes, on in the middle, and one down each side, for either heavies or meds.

Yes, exactly, just like attica.

@An_Pigeon

attica is a great map.

You are alone on this take. Majority of players hate this map for a reason.

@An_Pigeon

Do you leave with full uptiers as well?

Sometimes i don’t spawn at all, for example when i get maps like ash river in BR higher than 2.0.

@An_Pigeon

No you did not.

I literally did. You simply did not understand it.

@An_Pigeon

then you should of at least grammatically used it correctly.

I already told you, i use english because it is only language you know

@An_Pigeon

The fact you have no lineups near each other stats wise shows you consistently ODL.

That is simply not true. Couple examples of higher BR lineups i’ve been using.

@An_Pigeon

thing is a mig21 lazur which im assuming has been used in ARB

Nope. Lazur has been used exclusively in GRB, as i’ve bought it for CAS/CAP plane for my leopard pztbl.

@An_Pigeon

The fact is most maps are well rounded, most maps, and are not bad maps

This is just not true.

[GALWAYLION]

Bad gamemode or map. I’m sorry, but I don’t want to play Attica or Denmark five times over. Blame Gaijin for that.

[LoL-LoL]

Why play a map that you dont like? if gajin dosnt alow players to chose what maps they want is not players fault. I just refuse to play a bad map with capture the A point on a tank that is bad for that map. Only the vanila maps are truly good, rest are bad and boring.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

@Cpt_Bel_V

The reasons? You can get a lot of reason to flee from a fight… the problem aren’t the reasons,… the problems are the players.

In all games that i’m actively playing, there is the statement to make : People aren’t players, but certainly are crybabies that tends to leave whenever the game is unfavorable at any short moment in their perceptive judgement.

They’re not trying to ride over a problem or a mistake, but simply leaving/forfeit an entire team, and act as trolls or abandon a team whenever the team thinks otherwise.

You can play War Thunder, Cs:Go, Valorant,… That’s the problem of a Whole generation of players, who ask to get a golden spoon in their mouth while playing online games

If only players were players, we would have less stupid acts of “self-protection” for whatever reason that is.

Is currently answering you’re attempt to justify your actions.

I shall add that Casuals, like yourself, are not what i consider a Player, but a People,… and that’s what i think of cry-babying over maps.

As told on another thread, maps are all as bad,… you people just doesn’t see(want to see) why.

Therefore leaving one map, should result in leaving EVERY maps → thus the game.

[RunaDacino]

@Cpt_Bel_V

maps are all as bad,

(Large) Sinai and Alamein are great. Big maginot line is nice(as long as it’s not single cap). They’re not perfect, but they provide a simulacrum of actual tank combat you’d expect. Fulda is also nice. Rhine is a weird exception to corner-to-corner brawls due to all the routes that exist. Maps with “battle” mode can end up playable despite being normally bad.

Corner-to-corner brawl maps are not nice. Any map with a single cap objective is awful (hurtgen is borderline) and gets ditched before spawn. Maps that are flat and have spawn-to-spawn visibility are also not nice.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

I’m from that PoV.

But a PoV remains one, as long as we don’t take in account the effectivness of guns in High BR maps.

And current large Sinai, isn’t the Sinai i once knew.

I’m saying that if one map is bad in Ones Mind, then every maps are. ^^"

But leaving because of a Map, or because of Uptier(some do that too) is just asking a game with no difficulty.

[Kicimijazawa]

Leaving the match because of uptier is stupid.
How many players are top tier with Gaijins MM? 3? 5 per team? The rest of them is uptiered and chances of downtier are slim.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

Normal rule is 4.

[TIGER_TANK_1]

Depends on the uptiering. 4.7 85mm vs tiger tanks is reasonable.

What’s not reasonable is for IS-7 to fight 9.3s with strong armor, penetration and fire rate.

[snake243]

Maybe if gaijin let us ban more maps besides a single one with premium, this wouldn’t be as much of an issue. Some maps are just downright awful with how teams tend to play some of them and spawns can give one side an advantage over the other, and while it’s not impossible to pull a win out of these kinds of maps, the enjoyment factor can be seriously limited. I outright despise the Vietnam map for example due to having some of the most frustrating losses on it in the past, and in the right mood I will just take the crewlock on it and play one of my other tech trees since I already have another map banned. One issue I could see people having a problem with banning more maps is queue times, though that’s not even that big of a deal when this game has a large enough playerbase that it wouldn’t affect them that much to where an extra 30 or so seconds at worst isn’t going to be that detrimental to find a match. Plus gaijin would be able to get feedback on what maps are getting banned more often and either pull them from the map rotation or rework the maps.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

Banning maps shouldn’t be a thing,…

Again,… not liking a map is only a Perceptive Bias,…

In the same way, Tank areas should be much more open for free positionning, in order to not have the current bullshit of Death corridors.

[Hudler]

@Cpt_Bel_V

Banning maps shouldn’t be a thing,…

Again,… not liking a map is only a Perceptive Bias,…

Lol. Lmao even

“Eat the slop, if you do not like it you have perceptive bias”

[Cpt_Bel_V]

What changes in the gameplay from one map to another?

The calculation of any hit is the same,… there is no differences.

So, if a tank is harder from the front, being on Karelia or Sinai doesn’t give any changes.

As such,… the only map problem currently present in game is the fact that people are spread to fight in Death corridors, be it large or small.

Therefore, if one map is bad, then any map is.

The “i don’t like XYZ map” then become a perceptive bias, due to bad experience happenning in one or another.

There is currently no Vanilla maps that weren’t modified, in order to make people to spread in death corridors.

The game itself sees that those maps are modified, effectively reducing the spread of tanks onto a map, helping aircrafts to drop easily onto the 3/4 hard positions that players always go to, and making any comeback nearly impossible.

Now you all prefer to have map banning system,… instead of making Gaijin creating maps that are currently good to play on.
Keep at it,… it’s easier for Devs,…

Oh, and by the way,… being sassy about me telling facts doesn’t proves you’re in the right.

[Hudler]

@Cpt_Bel_V

What changes in the gameplay from one map to another?

This is the most stupid question i’ve seen lately here

@Cpt_Bel_V

The calculation of any hit is the same,… there is no differences.

irrelevant to the point

@Cpt_Bel_V

Therefore, if one map is bad, then any map is

Yes, you are right - almost all maps in war thunder are bad

@Cpt_Bel_V

The “i don’t like XYZ map” then become a perceptive bias, due to bad experience happenning in one or another.

No.

Why can’t you comprehend the idea, that some people can like some maps and dislike other maps?

If i get volokolamsk map i simply do not play it, because i hate this map with passion. Why? I don’t know, i just don’t. I could score 10 kills in a battle on this map and would still consider it bad and boring battle just because i don’t like the map.

Same thing with stalingrad map or finland map.
When i see these maps are being loaded i automatically lose any interest in playing the battle, and either just play it as chore to grind or just ditch the battle and play another one.

And that india map is instant ditch, i refuse to force myself to play game on that map.

Trying to suggest it’s pErCePtiVe BiAs is just silly.

@Cpt_Bel_V

There is currently no Vanilla maps that weren’t modified, in order to make people to spread in death corridors.

Irrelevant to the point

@Cpt_Bel_V

Now you all prefer to have map banning system,… instead of making Gaijin creating maps that are currently good to play on.
Keep at it,… it’s easier for Devs,…

gaijin proved it countless times that they do not know how to make maps. So yeah, we would like to have map banning system to avoid the worst maps in game.

@Cpt_Bel_V

Oh, and by the way,… being sassy about me telling facts doesn’t proves you’re in the right.

But i am right. And your claim that “banning maps should not be a thing” is obnoxiously anti player statement and literal gaijin shilling

[Cpt_Bel_V]

You made currently 0 points probing anything your way,… but ok,…

Being irrelevant?
Don’t make me laugh,…
You gave me reasons to say It’s a perceptive bias in your mind about one map.

@Hudler

volokolamsk map i simply do not play it, because i hate this map with passion

Perception

@Hudler

would still consider it bad and boring battle just

Perception

But yeah, sure you can make good games.
But in the end it’s you and no one else that says the map is bad for yourself.
All is about your perception of some maps.
Still multiplied by the number of players, as there is as many perceptions than players.

PS: yeah, you just don’t read all message, but only Jump reacting on what displeases you,… sorry but truth often is Brutal.

[Hudler]

Yeah, yeah, eat the slop, play the game, do not question anything
maps are good, it’s pErCePtiOn BiAs

Keep going, maybe they will hire you

weak energy with your flags

[Cpt_Bel_V]

Calling me as a Gaijin collaborative is unfunded, and saying that i wanna get hired is undoubtly the most stupid argue i’ve ever read.

Apart saying you hate some maps,… you bring nothing new,…

My argument is based on the facts that maps are made similarly

“Open field”-> 3(4sometimes) corridors, from each spawns, with 3 capture point in the middle of each corridors (2 corridors going to Central point)

“Urban field” → similarly to Open fields, the roads are corridors and often brings to capture points, the fact it is Urban make more corridors to defend/attack, spreading a bit more people.

“Mix field” → little towns around Capture points, easily defendable

All the maps are similar.
Some Vanilla maps had Flanking paths, many of those got removed/blocked by Czech Anti-Tanks traps or Death areas.

The maps are sadly all designed following those criterias.

From this come my point: if you don’t like 1 map of the whole package, you don’t like every others map of the same type,… but as map type are similarly designed, i can say you then hate every maps.

In such, you percieve some maps as bad and not the others simply because you dislike the ambiant environnement,…
if Volokolamsk were to be designed with Koln building type, you possibly would be liking it more.

But remember that i’m refering to the LAYOUT, and not the colorization,…

Oh, and by the way, the banning map feature is simply here to make WoT players happy, and to create a feeling of protection for players,… but it only brings more frustration.

If the amount of bannable maps increased even by 1, the amount of people unable to play with each others due to ban, would be increased by more than 1.

Therefore the Banning map feature is a marketing pointless feature, one more in the middle of thousands added to “make people enjoy the game”, getting Devs away from more important matters, like bug fixing.

[Hudler]

@Cpt_Bel_V

From this come my point: if you don’t like 1 map of the whole package, you don’t like every others map of the same type,… but as map type are similarly designed, i can say you then hate every maps.

You don’t like me? That means you hate all of humanity.
You don’t like playing WoT? That means you hate all games.

If you do not see the absurdity of your claim, well, there is no point in discussion.

That’s why you give off gaijin employee vibes. Or you are simply alvis alt and just trolling

[Cpt_Bel_V]

There is other differences,… and in such humanity is not only filled by people that can’t see facts.

WoT differences are numerous, and thus you make no sense.

The absurdity of my claim?
Then bring some real argument, mr “feelings is more important bruh”

@Hudler

That’s why you give off gaijin employee vibes. Or you are simply alvis alt and just trolling

And this part here is reportable,… discrimination is forbidden on the WHOLE forum.

[Hudler]

@Cpt_Bel_V

There is other differences,… and in such humanity is not only filled by people that can’t see facts.

Your claim disregards said “other differences”

@Cpt_Bel_V

The absurdity of my claim?

Yes, your claims are absurd.

@Cpt_Bel_V

Then bring some real argument, mr “feelings is more important bruh”

Dude, i just don’t like some maps. Why is this such a big deal for you? Why do you try to gaslight me into “hating all maps” because i don’t like some of them? Why do you hurt so much that i don’t like some of the maps?

@Cpt_Bel_V

And this part here is reportable,… discrimination is forbidden on the WHOLE forum.

Yeah, you are definitively gaijin employee or trolling