ok seems like on the big ships or? still wondering when Krishan gets a lower BR
Same thing, just visual, focussing on what are likely to be the key “shark BRs” in the new meta, of 7.3 and 6.0 for the mid-tier, and the feeder BRs for each (on the proven principle 8.7 is going to suck 7.7 up to it, and so on; currently that “shark BR” is 5.7)
Red is “going down”, Green is “going up” (double arrows if it goes up two), and the number is the average of their AB and RB K/Ds in May.
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Mode: Naval Arcade Battles
Ship: mig21 pfm
Change: 9.0 → 9.3
This plane probably should go up as well with the prescence of the kh-66 missile on this airframe
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That coastal decompression better come soon too, cause I dare Gaijin staff to look me in the eye and tell me that a 2.3 MV-611 having to fight a 3.3 La Suprise is fair and is not much worse than any other ground or air full uptier.
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Extra gun is nice and all over Lorraine but 0 aa is questionable though its not as important in average game. Bretange rangefinders also less accurate but u can play around that too. Being honest due to draggy the shels are the early french bbs will always be questionable and barely usefull vs actual bbs.
Bretagne to 6,7 with 280 pen at 15km when Dunkerque to still be 0,3 above has still 380pen there is a rough jump. Could just keep it at 6,3 at this point.
Some early BB guns are increadibly draggy and needs to be taken into account. Like Courbet APHE range is 13km combined with bad elevation. And italian 305/46 amstrong guns also have barely 13km range on APHE.
13km is enough range for wt battles but lead and penetration at range is just horrible unless u use HE.
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Statshark stats for naval ve been unreliable in the past but now after nice fixes are pretty good.
Would be nice to include the game count those ships achieve too. Since we know small how data can be all over the place depending on that. Also there can be huge swings overtime due to that without even major changes to the game.
I think to properly get results from statshark analysis or any stats (for example that gaijin have) you need to play the game and also know all the tiny details of the ships and battle metas.
For example you point out crazy good Kerch stuff, but u can see almost same ship in italian tree (di Savoia) just isnt as great stats wise. Its obviously due to factors outside ship performance and those ships should always be same br.
Also Leningrad being event vehicle having good stats while the Moskva with way worse in tech tree is another example of pure stats not being enough to say what should happen.
Interestingly for lots of boats premium stats seem way better in opposition to whats happening ground and air.
The proposed changes make a lot of sense for a lot of ships but are missing stuff and some stuff is overdone or done in wrong way if they would include some feedback i think it would improve at least.
In terms of stats if a vehicle has good characteristics and bad stats i think there should be deep analysis on why that is and vice versa. I think gaijin did manage to do that for some and take some good decisions for those split vehicles. Theres some clear cases of good vehicle good stats cases not on the proposed changelist people rightfully leave feedback on.
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Is this a new damage mechanic in the dev server? If so, how does this affect US battleships?
Its been in game for about 6 months? I think
I haven’t really noticed it. To be fair though, I’ve been avoiding fighting the Scharnhorsts so I don’t get attention from them
Yeah hence why i dont understand it at all. Gaijin be on that good sruff when it comes to anything french 😂
Naval RB:
USS Baltimore and USS Pittsburgh should stay at 6.0.
Des Moines and Newport News should stay at 6.3
Admiral Hipper and Prinz Eugen should move to 6.0
HMS Belfast and HMS Southampton should possibly stay at 5.7 too.
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I am an avid Town-Class user and Im really really on the fence with whether they should be 5.7 or 6.0.
They can be glass canons (especially Belfast’s ammo rack layout) but I do think they may be too strong to remain at 5.7 in downtiers, especially as a lot of destroyers are moving up. So in that regard. I dont think its necessarily a bad thing its going to 6.0.
But there is a hell of a lot that should be joining them at 6.0 that isnt, and it is that and that alone and that has me most peeved about the change. Belfast being a higher BR than Prinz Eugen is just nuts
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yeah that’s obviously the key reason, but how do u think, with all that things going higher as well, will be 5.7 downtiered so often? I don’t think so. Probably 6.0 will, so not a big deal
I honestly have absolutely no idea whether we’ll see constant uptiers or downtiers, or equal tiers with these changes.
But I certainly think that is Belfast moves up, then there is a hell of a lot of other 5.7s that should be moving to 6.0. There should be exceptions, a few ships that are weaker than most and dont need to move, rather than only a few moving and the rest staying
well, I’m pretty sure Eugen and Myoko + sisterships will move to 6.0 with all those upvotes
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We can hope.
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My reply to a Des Moines suggestion. I have hidden this post behind a spoiler to save space on the thread. Cheers! 🍻
Heya friend, already have one for the Des Moines and Newport News staying at 6.3 if you want to leave a like on it too so we can collect more on a single post 👍 Planned Naval Battle Ratings Decompression - #97 by SilentTracker
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Nothing 9.3 or above needs changing since 9.0 is the maximum BR an aircraft can have with the Yamato at 8.7 - air can only be 1 BR step above your max vessel BR.
So anything currently 9.0 or lower only needs be raised to 9.3 to remove it from the game.
So it looks like they have very deliberately excluded the F4JB from the game.
Maybe they just forgot FJ-4B and FJ-4B VMF-232 are very different in armament. Other than that cannot explain why FJ-4B is higher than F3H-2 with AIM-7C and 3,000lb bomb
So the USSR has the Sovetsky Soyuz at 8.7 so you can use Premium MIG-21S-300 at br 9.0 which is the second lowest BR aircraft that has 2 - Radar anti air missiles and 2 IR anti air missiles .
And for those that do not have the Premium you still get the chance to use the MIG-15bis at br 8.7 which has less anti air missiles but still has 2x Radar Anti air missiles.
I forgot when the other nations first get missiles in which BR.