vehicles that went up, in a past change, they should also go up from 10.0 upwards and thus put the BR 12.0.
If the BRs do not go up from 10.0 onwards, we will have the same problem we had.
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Basically the current proposed change is to lighten 6.3 to 7.7 rating, so the majority of vehicles between 7.0 to 9.7 go up by 0.3/0.4 in battlerating. This change is wanted by the communauty to decompress late WW2/post WW2 vehicule with Cold War ( It’s a separation for the vehicles with chemical shells ; hwat-fs/apfsds. Omitted that you see less see of M48 and some ATGM carrier, what you’re facing in the battle remains the same vehicles, without any real impact for your AMX-30b ).
@Stona_WT is that normal for all M48 aren’t moving up (7.3 -> 7.7 like Centurion mk3) ? Same about M47 (105mm), the M47 Standard could saty 7.3 like the M46 at 7.0
Also :
- Object 120 need to be 8.0 with its APFSDS.
- ATGM vehicule aren’t impacted by the Battlerating change ( like AFT9, It-1, HOT missille vehicule, etc. IFV are raise, but not anti-tank missile carrier ? )
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It’s insane man…the tank should go down not up, they clearly don’t know what they doing…i mean u go 8.0 and ur essentially too weak. Imagine against t55 am lmao
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So, instead of increasing the maximum BR, and starting balance and decompression from there, you just compress things further, while delaying the main problems
One step forward, two step backwards, as usual.
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I do thinks this br chnage are necessary but the main things here are in air arb because that all i play f4e phantom ll shouldn’t be fithing 4 gen air cradt i do things the br can be incres even to 12.7 so with dont have to fight f16 and f14 or even mig 29 every single macht the f4e should be at least 10.7 all the phantom got power creep as soon they indruce f14 to mix i dont care if take long-term to macht up but i wouldn’t wN be fighting 4 gen air craft with 3rd gen jet is not fun same su 39 is over tier in air arb gajing leve it same br for ground arb and change the br in airb even 10. 10 3 br decompresion need to happeng even higher tier please gajing
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If the Shvak/B20 damage stays as it is, all Russian planes which have suffered from poor damage for many years, all of those which carry Shvak/B20 and designated as “Fighter” should go up in BR.
We do not know if you plan to keep the Shvak/B20 cannon damage has this. Please evaluate.
List of changes
Yak-3 - 4.7
Yak-3P - 5.3
Yak-9P - 5.3
Yak-9U - 5.0
Yak-3U - 6.0
Yak-3VK107 - 6.0
La-7 / Premium - 5.3
La-7B20 - 5.7
I-185M71 - 4.7
Other offenders in the Russian tree
I-29 - 3.7
Yak-1B - 3.7
Yak-9 - 3.3
Yak-9M - 3.7
Hurricane IIB - 3.3
I-153P - 3.0
Again, this all depends on what you have further planned with gun changes. Russian planes have been sitting at a comparatively low BR for their flight performance due to lackluster guns. This has changed drastically now, so the BR has to be changed if this is to stay.
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SMS Bayern and Kongo class Battleships should go 6.7 BR , due to their low efficiency.Actually they could be easily blowed up by Desmoines, not to mention confronting with other battleships like USS Arizona and Nevada. However, these two American Battleships are almost the most powerful among all battleships, but they still stay on 6.7 BR.
not like half of the existing 7.7 were moved to 8.0… so no it won’t struggle as much, especially not facing l7 anymore.
Dear Gaijin,
although I appreciate your efforts to help out the late WW2 and early cold war tanks I’m afraid this isn’t the way to do it. I think this will just move the problem to another BR and not solve it. In my opnion you should consider moving everything up above ~7.0 BR including the current top BR vehicles.
Yours truly,
suicidalkermit
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Revert t29 pls,it has no place at 7.3, the tank should go 6.7 since it got fixed with armour bugs, no reason to furher increase its br , it will be impossible to play at 8.3
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As a T32E1 player I disagree.
It’s the American Maus but faster with a slightly worse hull & relies on APCR.
I main APCR in WT on 90mm tanks that lack HEATFS. That’s the context.
If I remember correctly, Challenger MK2 is not the last in line and has default AP instead of HEAT
M1128 has no default AP rounds, with 7.5 seconds reload, and require an awful lot of RP for each part since it is the last in line.
That just shifts the problem with the BR…
We need a serious decompression of the whole BR-system, like i.e. BRs up to 20.0 for toptier vehicles and reevaluate every vehicle accordingly, for tanks and planes!
Then you can keep the +/- 1 BR matchmaking, otherwise implement +/- 0.7 BR matchmaking for the sake of players!
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America has a better wr at that br.
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full salvos with american bbs like (oh a heavy cruiser what should a load, a round that will do 30 crew members of damage, or damage open secondary.)
- Nevada
- Arizona
they are a strong nut to crack but the game doesn’t deal with flat HE and APCBC the firepower department isn’t there. i would know doing full salvos with these ships is a disappointment on ANY ship it shoot at. then you have the speed and the turning radius, reload speed, and turret turning speed… (they don’t exist in equal parts)
the only really good battleship is the Wyoming…
TRUST me, i hate how bad American battleships are, the most powerful are the ones with insane filler sizes, or decent size i can assure you these American battleships do not need to go up in BR…
you either go straight through a target with your APCBC doing zero damage, you shoot HE and do very minor surface damage, or you use APCBC and do minor damage to a heavily armored target…
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These changes are goofy, especially the Leopard 1 and T-54 (1949) now the issue at 7.7 Germany where you only have one of the worst stock grinds with the German M48 in that lineup. I am all for BR decompression but, Christ either add vehicles in that can cover for the BR change, or take the whole lineup into consideration. Also not every single vehicle is being decompressed in the 7.3 - 9.7 BR range so, have fun fighting a T-64A in your Leopard 1.
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The sheet has 2 entries for G5N1 and Mörkö-Morane each.
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How does the Z-19E that is in 11.00 (RB) go from 10.3 to 10.7?
Did the gaijin coins go in too hard? ;)
T29 is 7.3 now and T95E1 is 8.3? You cant be serious.
Also no change for the 2S38, but the Bradleys go up…TURMS should go up too to 10.3 atleast
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Leo 1 100% deserved an uptier, and everyone knows it
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