Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

Absolutely no business at 12.0. Doesn’t need to see 13.0 missile busses that will slap it out of the air before it can even get a chance to do anything. 12.0 would make it unplayable.

I’m tired of bushes literally giving you invisibility… The bushes you put on top of tanks shouldn’t give you the Harry Potter invisibility cloak ability, fix your game Gaijin.

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Heil - UH-1C
Mode - GRB
BR - 8.7 → 9.0 ?

Currently at same BR as UH-1B but has ITOWs which are much better then AGM-22s, also give it CCIP

Vehicle: Su27 & J11
Gamemode: Air Simulator
BR Change: 13.3 to 13.0
Reasons:

  1. Both having slow responding N001 radar making them worse in sim where there’s NO MARKERS like ARB. 10 missiles are useless in sim if it takes you ~8sec to tell if there’s anything in front of you, not to mention you need to do IFF (funny how STT still has no IFF ability shows how sim is getting ignored).

  2. On top of that, in the current ASB bracket system, 13.3 100% of the time will face F15C and F16C with superior speed and missiles, which already made Su27SM and J11A hard to compete, not to mention inferior Su27 and J11

If ARB gets the change, SIM has more reasons to get it.

Heil - AH-1Q Tzefa B
Mode - GRB
BR - 9.0 → 9.3

It would match the BR of AH-1E, 15% horsepower does not justfiy a lower BR (also give the Tzefa B CCIP rockets it is based on a later version, no reason it wouldnt have it) , either they both should be 9.0 or both should be 9.3. I think 9.0 for both is fair

Vehicle: Mig-29A
Gamemode: Air RB
BR Change: 12.7 ----> 12.7 remove R-27ER and add R-73
Reason: Currently, Mig-29A(9.12 and 9.13) is equipped with R-60M and R-27ER. This is ahistorical, R-60M is always limited to training only on Mig-29, and R-27ER only enters service at the very end of the cold war.
We already have Mig-21 Bison at 12.3 equipped with 2 R-73 and HMD. As far as I know it’s radar is better than N-019. That means, if Mig-29A really receives R-73 and have its R-27ER removed, it shall have better chassis in exchange for worse radar, and 2 more R-73 for 0.3 battle rating. I think this is fair enough, now that missiles with IRCCM perform worse than before (and we already have Mig-29G at 13.0 and that’s 4 R-73 for 0.3 battle rating compared to current Mig-29A). R-27ER+R-60M is ahistorical anyway. Well, this should make more sense if the F-16As go to 12.7.This change will not break the balance.

Here’s a link of a thread from War Thunder forum. Obviously, most players agree with this idea.

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TL;DR

He agreed with the A-10C going to 12.0
Su-25SM3 going to 12.0
The Su-39 staying exactly as it is, my god you are dense.

IJN Amagi 7.0 → 7.3 Fast reload rate and alot of 410 guns compare to others.
Challenger 3 TD 11.7 → 12.0 Reload rate 6.0 sec. → 5.0 sec. Unpopular tree compare to others. It bring alot of ability to play on this vehicle.

Air RB, F104S should be 11.0 (11.3>11.0)
Reasoning :This plane is inferior in flight performance to the mig 21bis and also has inferior weapons, it only has aim9p and needs to give up the cannon to carry radar missiles

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Air RB, F104S TAF should be 11.0 (11.3>11.0)
Reasoning :This plane is inferior in flight performance to the mig 21bis and also has inferior weapons, it only has aim9p and needs to give up the cannon to carry radar missiles

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Ground Realistic, CAS. 12.7<13.0

Will there be an increase in Top Tier CAS i know many are 12.7 to go along with the current 11.7 top tier ground. Is there any chance we can see a blanket increase to 13.0 for the top tier CAS to keep them out of the main premium bracket which will be 11.7.

I think if premium/new players are constantly getting battered by CAS it will give them a bad impression of game becasue they haven’t had the chance to grind air trees. This may also lead to an imbalance among teams

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Simulator air battles, A-10C, 11.3 → 12.0

Reason: the Aim-9M is very very unbalanced aam in simulator as there is no way to tell if one has been fired.
Additionally reasons:
Pros:

  • Pingless IFF HMD (great for sneak attacks)
  • 4 Aim-9ms (way more than other even 11.7, 12.0, or 12.3 planes)
  • MAW (which is very OP for people not even paying attention, and will make 90% of aams miss entirely)
  • 480 countermeasures (enough to literally defeat 12+ aams)
  • great cockpit visibility
  • high amount of 30mm cannon ammo
  • dozens of good agm, bomb, and other munitions.
  • Thermal pod

Cons:
Slow

Many people agree to it going up in Br.

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Vehicle in question: Challenger 2 family
Vehicle changes: rate of fire increased to 15r/s on the ready rack(5.2 stock, 4 aced), with a flat out 12r/s afterwards(6.5 stock, 5 aced)
With most 120 NATO equipped tanks bar leopard variants receiving 5 seconds reload, the challenger 2 has effectively lost its only advantage. The CR2 is at least out-gunned, out-loaded, out-armored or out-sped in three of the criteria compared to machines above.

Here are some of the regularly critiqued top tiers comparing to it:
Ariete AMV: worse armor - better mobility, penetration, same reload with a FOAR of 15+1 rounds
Top tier Chinese MBT: worse reload, similar penetration - better UFP and turret armor, immensively better mobility
Merkava Mk.4B/LIC/M: similar mobility, worse armor - better penetration, same reload
Leclerc SXXI/AZUR: similar penetration - better mobility, same reload with an autoloader and a FOAR of 22+1 rounds

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Id also suggest they fix the size of the ready rack as they nerfed it to 4 for balancing reasons

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Increasing it to 8 would barely change anything, increasing it to 12 may.

Fairly certain its suppose to be like 20 or something, same as the CR1s

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Air RB, Kfir canards should be 11.0 (11.3.>11.0)
Reasoning: This plane is inferior in flight performance to the mig 21bis and also has inferior weapons, it only has 2x aim9G or shafir 2

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@Stona_WT please, I’m aware you’ve been asked before, but can you please clarify what the new outputs are for the RARDEN, and confirm that they will be mirrored to the Warrior?

The CR1s also only had like 5? The chieftains do have a whopping 24+1.

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F-14s going up is really good, but according to Modern ARH (FOX 3) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion the AIM-54 should have a Max G Pull of Up to 25Gs, this mean that the AIM-54 needs a buff of AOA and G pull, also the Fakour-90 is overperforming by a Lot since it should have way less range than the AIM-54, while AIM-54 should have way more range, AIM-54 should loft more than it does right now, up to 100.000ft, beyond the maps límit… and a loft angle of 30°.

-Less drag.
-a bit more power.
Top speed of Mach 5.

Max kill range of 160km, since ita actually accurate.
While You can’t get higher kills than 65km, do You have the same efective range of the R-27ER.

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