Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

Mode: Ground Realistic Battles

Tank: Ariete PSO

Change: 11.7 → 11.3, replace DM53 with CL3143

Reasoning: The ariete PSO is worse than any other MBT in the game, since its armor is not modelled correctly (Community Bug Reporting System). If that won’t be fixed, then just remove the DM53, give it back its own real round and move it lower in BR.

Mode: Ground Realistic Battles

Tank: Ariete AMV

Change: 12.0 → 11.7, remove DM53 and keep CL3143

Reasoning: The ariete AMV is worse than any other top tier MBT in the game, since its armor is not modelled correctly (Community Bug Reporting System). If that won’t be fixed, then just remove the DM53, keep only its real round and move it lower in BR.

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Air Realistic Battles
Whirlwind MK1
3.7–> 3.3
I believe it has worse performance than the Whirlwind P.9 (3.7), and significantly less gun ammo which greatly reduces its effectiveness (240 rounds opposed to 484)

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i Find the Whirlwind is decent at 3.7, you just need to nail the Hispano aim down (not all that difficult, Hispanos are great), though considering its low BR many more new players will be at it where the limited ammo is a major issue, but BR won’t fix that

Air Realistic Battles
Ju 388J
4.3–> 3.7
The Ju-388J is an interceptor at BR 4.3. However, its airspawn is very low and its climb rate is worse than most fighters at 4.3, at 8.9 M/S on the statcard (which I know isn’t very accurate) but I was being beaten to altitude by conventional fighters. The armament on the Ju 388J is very strong, but incredibly hard to aim, and the schrage musik cannons are very little more than a party trick. Therefore, I believe the 388J should get a better airspawn or move down in BR

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true, but theres no reason for it to sit at the same BR as the P.9

where is air spawn/ closer spawn to the centre for A10’s and Su25 for ARB? :(

Pz.IV J

Rank II → Rank III

Generally nearly all the long 75mm armed Pz.IV can use a BR increase, since they have the performance to be able to. While they do require more skill since they are more of a glass cannon compared to T-34’s or M4’s, they have a gun that have better penetration. The Pz.IV J compared to the Pz.IV H, have a tradeoff in regards to its turret rotation, that makes it more balanced for its current BR. However it should still get an increase in rank, so it can be used for daily missions.

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Pz.38(t) n.A

Rank I → Rank II

Move it up in rank, and give back its ability to scout. As it currently is in the game, there is no reason to play this thing over the other Pz.38(t).

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Germany rank 1 and 2 is full enough, theres no reason to move the 38(T) up to rank 2

Mode: Realistic Battles

Vehicle: AMX-40

BR: 10.0 → 9.7

Reason: I believe there are two big reasons not to move the AMX-40 up in br, at least for now,

Firstly, I believe that the AMX-40 fits very well at 9.7 at the moment. I play quite a bit at the 9.3/9.7 br range with France, Britain, Germany and Russia, and I have never found myself being accused of using an overpowered vehicle in the AMX-40. I think that if you really cared about balance and fairness you’d take a long hard look at vehicles like the CLOVIS or 2S38 rather than a vehicle that, up until now, I have heard 0 complaints about. Many comparisons are made to the Leopard 2k, however I think its important to note the 2k has a better performing round, a stabilized autocannon and much better variable zoom levels on it’s gunner sight. Aside from hard factors like round performance, the 2k also has a good lineup to go along with it, something the AMX-40 would not have if moved up. High winrates and KDs can be pretty easily explained by the fact that French players are generally pretty skilled at the game, simple as that.

Even if we assume that it would be fair to move the AMX-40 up in br, you’re still moving it to a BR with quite literally no lineup to speak of as I mentioned before. I think it would be an understatement to say that it’s not fair to force French players to move their 9.3/9.7 tanks up to 10.0 just so one tank can have a lineup behind it. You already have a very well-rounded 9.7 lineup for france, why ruin it like this? In moving the AMX-40 up to 10.0, you’d not only be nerfing it twice over by placing it at a higher br and depriving it of a br appropriate lineup, you’d also be soft nerfing the entire 9.3/9.7 lineups by forcing them to be artificially moved up in br as well.

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Agreed. But TURMS-T should also go up to 10.7 since it’s a direct upgrade to the 72B thanks to basically being the same thing but with thermals

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turms av armour is significantly worse than T-72B; it’s fine where it is

So every other vehicle at those BR’s should suffer?

could be worse (Ju 388J)

Merkava 1 and 2 BR change is stupid and I can prove it using only 1 vehicle in the same techtree. Lets take the Magach 6B gal which sits at 9.3 and isnt being moved up to 9.7, the magach 6b gal has better armour, better manoeuvrability, better acceleration, smaller profile, better round, better armaments and era but wait the merkavas are so overpowed they must be moved up to 9.7 which has constant 10.7 uptiers literally every game due the amount of 10.0-10.7 premiums. So if I was to ask what is the reason for the BR change on the merkavas they are already shit in 9.3 and even shitter in 9.7 please use some common sense!!!

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The German KV-1B and Soviet KV-1E are far too heavily armoured to stay at 4.0 in RB. They should easily be increased in BR in both AB and RB, possibly as far up as the KV-1 ZiS-5 at 4.7 since they trade a worse gun for even more armour than it.

The EBR 1951 is not better than the AMX-13 FL-11 and should be decreased to the same 4.3 BR. Similarly, the M24 is also as good, and should be increased to 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). They all bring the firepower of the Sherman onto a quick chassis, trading differing amounts of usable armour, speed and gun handling compared to eachother.

I would also prefer to see the Lago 1 lose the APDS shell (as it was canceled before development of the APDS started) and be dropped to around 2.0 to make it perform essentially as a lower BR version of the Strv m/42.

Similarly, both the Strv m/38 and Strv m/39 could lose the APDS shell as it makes them lasers compared to other nations 1.0 vehicles. They would still perform well without it. Also for historical reasons. (The m/40L however should keep it)

The Pvkv III is straight up awful and can easily be dropped back to 2.7 where it still wasn’t amazing, but at least usable.

The M26 Pershing is not that significantly better than the Tiger E, and should at most be 0.3 BR above it. Especially as long as it shares that spot with its significantly better brothers (T26E5/T26E1-1). Unless many vehicles at 7.3 gets moved up.

The CCVL and XM8 should for all intents and purposes “switch places” as the XM8 was the successor to the CCVL. As such it makes more sense for it to receive better ammo etc. But I understand it’s a hard case to argue from a gameplay perspective, as it’s much work (which might upset people) for little reward.

The M14/41 and M15/42 are not competetive at their BR’s as they neither have the penetration, armour or speed to do much, especially when they are forced into an uptier.

Due to the flat armour of the ISU-152, it isn’t that significantly better than the SU-152, and could be dropped to 4.3.

The T-35 can easily oppress any enemy team due to its high survivability and quick firing 45mm, and should be increased in BR so the chance of seeing it in lower games is rarer.

The BMP-1 in AB could easily be raised to 8.0 as it is in both RB and SB.

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Hi those are my suggestions,
Tiger 2p 6.3 (worse than 2h)
He 177 5.7 (worse than ju288c)
F-4F early 10.3 (no flares vs all)
Strela 10.7 (pulverizing with undodgable missiles)
Vautorr 8.7 (to slow, no air spawn)

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That and it isn’t even supposed to have a thermal sight.

There was a video (which I’m desperately trying to find right now) that showed it’s only an IR TV, not a thermal.